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If the Patriots are interested in QBs and they have Brady, why don't we?

Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by Pokes12, Apr 20, 2014.

  1. XxTDxX

    XxTDxX Active Member

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    They have the best QB in the league, coupled with an extremely weak division. The Pats are a great team but if I was to take anything from the strategy wise and give it to the Cowboys it would be their aggression especially with trades. As soon as a talented guy is made available for whatever reason they are willing to ship a late round pick for the guy.. I would like to have had Randy Moss/Aqib Talib etc etc. Drafting is not there strong suit.
  2. jnday

    jnday Well-Known Member

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    Even when Brady was injured, they won. I give them credit, they are an extremely well run team that wins year after year. They lose players, they win. Players injured, they win. You don't read about a ton of excuses from them. I dislike them, but I have to respect them. They gave the best coach in the NFL.
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  3. Bleu Star

    Bleu Star Agent Coulson

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    I watched Murray closely and do like his game but I also saw moments where the consistency just wasn't there. I wouldn't be upset over a Murray pick but would prefer McCarron over him?
  4. theranchsucks

    theranchsucks Well-Known Member

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    Simple, the Patriots have a GM and the Cowboys do not
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  5. casmith07

    casmith07 I'm the best poster in the game!

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    I'd rather take Tajh Boyd. Late round guy, good character, can make the NFL throws, and can make plays with his feet.

    Perfect type to step in like Russell Wilson or Joe Flacco and really be that "bus driver" style quarterback who isn't asked to do too much.
  6. TheDallasDon

    TheDallasDon AegonTheConqueror-Now bend the knee

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    So how does the fact we bring in QBs every year and looking at alot this year say then, you have a agenda?
  7. big dog cowboy

    big dog cowboy THE BIG DOG Staff Member

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    I'm shocked.
  8. jnday

    jnday Well-Known Member

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    The QBs that Dallas brings in are nothing more than camp arms. The last QB that I remember being reported that Dallas had serious interest in was Dalton and that interest has been disputed. If there are more, please share.
  9. theranchsucks

    theranchsucks Well-Known Member

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    Simple yet again, when you are drafting in the late teens year after year it is the perfect area to try and trade down. Something Jerry is known for doing. Also, how many of those QBs we bring in every year have we drafted? Looking and doing/drafting are two different things.
  10. Pokes12

    Pokes12 Active Member

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    Drafting a franchise quarterback is different from drafting a mid first or second rounder who is more likely not going to save the franchise but instead be a utility infielder for his career, see Sam Bradford, David Carr, Ryan Mallet, Jay Fiedler, even Jay Cutler. Rarelly does the SB winner win with a utility infielder calling the plays, although it does happen from time to time, see Trent Dilfer. There is a reason most SBs end up pairing Manning against Wilson and Manning against Brady, because they are elite and elite quarterbacks lead elite teams to championships.

    The question is .....drum roll...........does this draft have an elite QB?

    My answer is yes, and it is Johnny Football. He is a once in a decade player that can play in the NFL of the 2015s and beyond.

    Go Get 'em, Jerruh!!!
  11. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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    I agree. Cowboys have brought in QB. I think some just like making a bigger deal out of things than need be. Attacking the Cowboys is what some do but fact is Dallas has worked out QB as they get ready for the draft.
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  12. CowboyStar88

    CowboyStar88 Well-Known Member

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    Yes I believe Murray has more upside. He really has great ball placement and the dude hangs in the pocket. He's going to be a good one
  13. Pokes12

    Pokes12 Active Member

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    Murray is not elite, he is not even in the mix when it comes to passers who have a chance to make it at the next level. Do you really compare him to Troy? or even to Tony?
  14. Pokes12

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    From ESPN Draft....."Murray likewise understands that he could be the ninth quarterback taken and could fall into the fourth or fifth round." This is an iffy qb at best and that was before he wrecked his knee.
  15. big dog cowboy

    big dog cowboy THE BIG DOG Staff Member

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    Once in a decade player? I just threw up in my mouth.
  16. Pokes12

    Pokes12 Active Member

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    Swallow, and then gulp some water.
  17. Bleu Star

    Bleu Star Agent Coulson

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    I'm quickly warming up to Taj Boyd too. I would also easily prefer him over any sniff of Murray. Taj can be had in the later rounds where it doesn't impact our defensive focus in the draft.

    That said, I still think you go get Johnny F if the possibility is there.
  18. NumOneQB

    NumOneQB Active Member

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    McCarron is another Matt Leinart, IMO. His entire collegiate career he wasn't asked to do a whole lot, threw at WRs who consistently beat DB's 3-5yds, had an OL in front of him with 3 potential starting NFL lineman, and a Heisman caliber RB behind him.
  19. Pokes12

    Pokes12 Active Member

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    You are correct about McCarron. He is a bus driver on a Greyhound Bus with a hemi engine. He will be fortunate to carry a clipboard for a few years before he is selling used cars in Buloxi. Murray, same thing, except he will be in Peoria.
  20. NumOneQB

    NumOneQB Active Member

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    The most dynamic QB I've ever seen at the collegiate level was Mike Vick. Injuries severely limited his game and career success in the NFL. Now, JM is a better passer but his game does rely on his feet. Size, durability, & longevity are legitimate questions to consider.

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