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In all seriousness, Do the players even care if they make the playoffs?

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by Everson24, Nov 24, 2012.

  1. Everson24

    Everson24 Well-Known Member

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    Even if they were to play the wild card game and win their way to the Super Bowl championship they would earn a total of $170K. That amount is less than 10% of some of the players individual game check. I have a hard time believing that amount of money is any motivating factor for many of our highly overpaid players.

    I remember reading somewhere that Walt Garrison made something like 30% of his annual salary if they went to and won the Super Bowl. Now I can understand that making a difference in your motivation.

    As far as getting more publicity for winning, We lack motivation for that too. Win or lose what team gets more publicity than the Dallas Cowboys? I just don't think there is anything these players really care about other than staying on an NFL roster,getting their paychecks and planning their family vacation as soon as game 16 is over. Think about it. Would you be excited to give up a two week family vacation in Aruba for %10 of your weekly salary not to mention a chance to rest and get healthy again? I didn't think so. This may explain why we see many players laughing it up on the sidelines while we are down 21-3 against our division rivals. I'm getting tired of caring more about winning than some of the players do. And really who could blame them?
  2. fifaguy

    fifaguy Well-Known Member

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    I think the Cowboys care an awful lot, especially given their recent history of failing to make the playoffs. Unfortunately, it's not going to happen this year either...
  3. lwehlers

    lwehlers Well-Known Member

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    i bet they do not. the players that are making millions and what is an extra 170k to them.
  4. Kaika

    Kaika Have a Good Day Pilgrims

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    Not sure I agree. I believe $$ isn't the most imp. thing to most NFL players ,if it was, why kill yourself after receiving Millions ,you can find a way to survive 1 or 2 mill.
    Nah, I think most care ,ego is a big part of being a professional athlete ,but caring isn't enough sometimes. You have to produce as a team,and as a TEAM ,that aren't.
  5. REDVOLUTION

    REDVOLUTION Return to Dominance

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    I think they all care A LOT!

    BUT...


    1. I dont know if they care to the point of preparing to be the most prepared player(s) on the field.

    2. I dont know if some of them are smart enough (football-wise and otherwise)
  6. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Staff Member

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    I wouldn't be surprised if a decent sized group of players on the team could care less if they made the playoffs.

    I'm still shocked that Felix Jones couldn't pass his conditioning test at the beginning of training camp.

    That speaks volumes.
  7. Rynie

    Rynie Benched

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    I guarantee you Mike Jenkins doesn't care. Probably Orlando scandrick also.
  8. big dog cowboy

    big dog cowboy THE BIG DOG Staff Member

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    That is probably true for every team in the league.
  9. Howardlittleton64

    Howardlittleton64 Benched

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    Bingo
  10. tyke1doe

    tyke1doe Well-Known Member

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    Fans tend to think that players in the NFL are extra motivated because they play professional football and make millions.

    But NFL players are like real people in their particular jobs.

    You have some who are very passionate about their jobs and would do it without making a lot of money.

    You have some who are playing football for any number of reasons - it's the only thing they know to do, they're good at it but they could take it or leave it, they're in it for the money, etc.

    I'm sure there are some who have a burning desire to make it to the playoffs and be a winner.

    There are others, I don't think they even care. They play football. They're making money. They're ready for the off season.

    I'll never forget what Michael Irvin said about players: Someone are just there to cash a paycheck. They really aren't there to win. So when Jimmy Johnson came on board, Irvin went to him and told him, "This one doesn't need to be here, and this one doesn't need to be here, etc."

    The other thing he said is you can tell the players who want the ball in crunch time. There are some players who actually are scared to handle the ball or be in the line up when a critical game-winning play is at stake. Then there are other guys who live for that moment. They want the ball in their hands. They want to step up and make the game-winning play.

    I suspect there are some players on the Cowboys who are just ready for the season to be over. They won't tell you this, of course.

    But the Cowboys and NFL football isn't/aren't any different from the work situations in other non-sports environments.
  11. Illini88228

    Illini88228 Well-Known Member

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    Why do people hate Mike Jenkins so much? The guy played last year when is arm kept getting ripped out of its socket. Yes he's dogged it on some tackles over the year, but lots of cornerbacks have done that. I'm just amazed that somehow Jenkins has become the poster child for not caring.
  12. fifaguy

    fifaguy Well-Known Member

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    yes; caring and getting it done are two different things
  13. Super_Kazuya

    Super_Kazuya Well-Known Member

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    A fair question. You know, there's no doubt a lot of players who look at the NFL as strictly a job... and the playoffs would therefore be a low-paying overtime. However, these "low enthusiasm" types tend to be the types who don't get a lot of media exposure, so we don't know who they are. We know that Romo, Witten, etc. want to go to the playoffs. But do the interior players, the ones in the trenches who are literally shaving time off their life with each game, do they want to play a minimum wage playoff game?
  14. Reverend Conehead

    Reverend Conehead Well-Known Member

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    I remember seeing that Irvin interview. I'd love for a mole to be in there like that so that we could just get rid of anyone who's just playing for a paycheck.
  15. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    It does speak volumes on Felix. People wanted to blame the injury for it. I don't buy it. You're not talking about some extreme test of conditioning here. RBs should pass it in their sleep.

    I think it shows the lack of desire in Felix's belly that has been very apparent since he's been here. That's why a guy with his ability has underachieved like he has.

    As for the overall premise of this thread, I don't believe so. The Cowboys are one of 32 teams operating under the same financial structure. They all have millionaires playing for thousands in the postseason. Most of these guys would run through a wall for a title. They care. They just aren't very good.
  16. Rynie

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    Uh, all the business decisions, him crying when we got mo, not re-habbing in Dallas area so the coaches can be kept up to date on his progress, chomping it up with redskins coaches. I don't care how good a player is. It's extremely obvious he doesn't care.
  17. juck

    juck Well-Known Member

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    Post of the year. Great post and so true. Fans care more than the players. They ALL have one thing in common and thats an NFL logo on their jerseys.
    In the grand scheme they all play on the same team. Maybe the older players want a ring before they retire thats about it. The joke is on us and they laugh the whole way to the bank on the biggest reality show on the planet. Professional sports.
  18. tyke1doe

    tyke1doe Well-Known Member

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    The unfortunate thing about football now is that it's a year-round sport. Once the season is over, guys have to stay in shape, continue to throw (if you're a quarterback) or keep sharp mentally. You can't just take off and then come to training camp ready to get back into the swing of things, especially when your competitor is doing those things that go toward him being ready for the season.

    I think some players, like Felix, think, "Man, I'm glad the season is over. It's now time to chill and relax." And then when it's time for training camp, they're dragging their Dorito/Cheetoes-munching, soda-gulping, couch-laying bodies back into camp, hoping to shed a few pounds instead of being ready to start camp with carefully chiseled and conditioned bodies honed by off-season workouts.
  19. MagicMan

    MagicMan Active Member

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    Generally speaking, and thats generally, the player of today is ready to take vacations and spend time with their families once the regular season is over. They have made their millions for the year and ready to spend some. Used to be back in the 60's & even 70's, players did not have million dollar salaries and going to the playoffs was BIG.....most of their contracts had bonuses for playoff games and even SB's. Now not only the bonuses but the salaries are based on stats, stats and more stats. That is why most don't wanna come outta games. Salary renegotiations start with stats, not playoff wins.

    that has become more important than a measley 170K. Sure they want a ring to satisfy the ego and get bragging rights with their peers....but they know only one team a year will get it and as long as they are healthy for the coming year, that is ok with them.

    that is my story, and im sticking to it.....:D
  20. lane

    lane The Chairman

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    ray lewis

    cowboy or not

    he's a true football player that could play in any era

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