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Indiana Professor is a Genius

Discussion in 'Political Zone' started by irvin88, Aug 25, 2009.

  1. CowboyWay

    CowboyWay If Coach would have put me in, we'd a won State

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    Again, I'm not a huge fan of bailing these ******'s out. However, I'm smart enough to know when to shut up and listen. And if the leading economists were freaking out saying it would be the end of humanity as we know it, then I'm probably going to listen. Again, one of those things, we'll never know what would have happened if we did nothing. If you can't admit that, we don't really need to go any further.

    As far as 77% of Americans go.....whew....were do we start? 77% of Americans can't find Europe on a map. Let along the first thing about an economic crisis. Do you really think we should listen to them? Or do you think we should listen to the experts in the field? I know who I want my President to listen to. Experts.

    Why don't we listen to kids when they say they don't want to go to school? I'm sure 77% would vote against going to class. What about speed limits? You think we could get enough people to vote them down too? I do. What about taxes? You think 77% of people would approve a bill that said from now on, there are no more taxes?

    At some point you have to not listen to the people, no matter how unpopular it is. Just ask George Bush. He did it regularly.
  2. arglebargle

    arglebargle Well-Known Member

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    Wasn't there a point when 77% of the American public thought that the 9/11 bombers were Iraqi?
  3. ABQCOWBOY

    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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    I don't know what's wrong with black but if you really want to know, I'd like Burnt Orange. Thank you.

    You think I'm being naive? OK. Well, I've never heard of anybody being so cavalier about money, especially in such times of economic hardship, but hey, I guess you could be right.

    The program is over. Their are no more gravitational experiences towards new cars. Don't insult me with your sophomoric, "Pick Up Your Game" stuff. The reality is that all of those cars are going to be destroyed. Their is a shortage of used vehicals and prices are going to increase. It's supply and demand. You can't get around that.

    They are getting better MPG, that's true but for how long? Eventually, those engines will become more inefficiant over time, just like other engines will. It sounds as if you are trying to push Green here. Well, that's all well and good but first I'd ask that you show me any quantifiable proof that auto emissions are going to improve the quality of air by any significant standard. We've just given away 3 billion dollars to a bunch of people who bought cars that are going to make zero difference in the over all air quality of the Earth. You're right, I left out the MPG factor. You should have left well enough alone.

    Yet you sit here and tell us that we should be giving the benefit of the doubt. No, I don't think so. I think it is you who should be reevaluating your opinions and ideas on how best to spend tax payer money. Of course, that is just my opinion.


    Are you just not getting the point or are you dodging it? I do not agree with you that all leading economist believe that we had to do what we did on the bailout. That is simply not true. However, lets say that all ecomomist that you listened to or read said this. What does that have to do with borrowing 700 Billion dollars when only 350 was needed? When Bernanke came to Bush and said we need X amount of money to prop up the Fed, that number was not 700 BILLION. Are you not getting that? Secondly, where are all your leading ecomomists now that the 700 Bailout did not work? Where are all your leading ecomomists now that unemployment is now at almost 10%? Where are they now that all of these banks didn't start to lend but instead, went out and bought up investments instead of helping Americans like all you experts suggested? Smart enough is a very subjective thing.

    I, on the other hand, was dumb enough to identify a pile of BS when I saw it. I was not alone. Their were several other idiots, right here along with me, who also identified the pile.

    77% of Americans can't find Europe so they should have no say over their own money? That sounds like a very Left way to look at this. Let me just clue you in on something, 77% Americans may not have economic degrees from Ivy League schools but 77% of Americans knew enough to know that these people were lying to us. It's interesting that when 58% of America votes for your guy, the majority rules and elections have consiquences and we should just deal with it but when 77% of America says, this is stupid, they are immediatly characterized as children who do not want to go to school and have to be shown the way. OK, I think we all see. I know I do.

    Alas, when you have no credible position to defend, you drag out GW.

    I'm shocked.
  4. DaBoys4Life

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    Socialism doesn't work.
  5. CowboyWay

    CowboyWay If Coach would have put me in, we'd a won State

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    I pull out GW because he was a classic example of going against the grain. Even you should be able to see that. The simple fact is, I don't trust 99.9% of Americans on issues like the economy. They simply aren't informed enough to do so. You just disagree with the 58% of Americans who voted for "my guy". I'm guessing you think they're not as informed as you to make those decisions. I'm basically telling you the same thing. And I KNOW you agree with me. Americans don't know enough about economics to make these decisions. You know it, and I know it.
  6. TheCount

    TheCount Pixel Pusher

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    lol @ the orange.
  7. arglebargle

    arglebargle Well-Known Member

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    Send a message right away to all those Europeans! And the Chinese too, since they are our new landlords.
  8. jrumann59

    jrumann59 Well-Known Member

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    Cash for clunkers was abused by the gov't and the dealers. My buddy got a new charger R/T and got the 4500 rebate when he traded in his 1999 Dodge neon. Cash for clunkers is a huge FAIL, ask the dealers how they feel bailed out in 2 months when no one is buying new cars except the rich.
  9. MetalHead

    MetalHead Benched

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    Just because he did not answer?
    That's some rationale there...
    You are quickly becoming the most quoted individual here for 2 reasons:
    1.The Rat is gone.
    2.All the wrong reasons.
  10. ABQCOWBOY

    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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    But they are all political experts right? Are you reading what you are writting here?

    You can't have it both ways no matter how bad you would like to.
  11. TheCount

    TheCount Pixel Pusher

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    So your buddy traded in his 10 year old car and bought a brand new, $30,000+ car that averages 21 MPG combined? Yeah, huge fail.

    Or maybe you thought the point of the cash for clunkers was to get everyone into hybrids and econoboxes? Perhaps you thought the idea was that everyone had to be unhappy with the new car they got?
  12. Cajuncowboy

    Cajuncowboy Preacher From The Black Lagoon

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    Then you would be wrong. Again.
  13. JBond

    JBond Well-Known Member

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    What happened to MilesTheRat?
  14. Danny White

    Danny White Winter is Coming

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    First, I think this is likely an urban legend, but I still think the analogy is an interesting one, and one that may very well be proven true if actually tried. I think a lot would depend on the size of a class. A small class might be able to rally together, while a large 50-100 person class would likely fail the way the class in this story did.

    Second, I know, from first-hand experience, that you could find classrooms where everyone in them would support Marxism or socialism.

    I recall quite clearly times in college where I was the only person who didn't feel that way. Granted, I went to an extremely liberal school, and most certainly you wouldn't find a professor who would have any interest in proving those students wrong... most likely he would be leading the charge.

    I doubt if you'd find a homogeneous classroom like that at a state school like Indiana, but there are places out there where you'll find a lot of students who blindly swallow the socialist line.
  15. arglebargle

    arglebargle Well-Known Member

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    As opposed to blindly swallowing some other line? Or an urban legend?

    The point about class size is very good, and I think you are right about the smaller the class, the more likely something like this might work. Really, you are talking about taking a course similiar to Pass/Fail, except for the class as a whole.

    Given the constraints of this particular scenario, it would be imperative for the really good students to make sure that the more poorly performing students get brought up. And of course, it would help if everyone in the class was actually interested in learning something, rather than just getting a shiny grade.

    Unfortunately though, this is presented as if fact, and worse, believed by many as fact, when it is actually just a viral political diatribe.

    http://www.snopes.com/college/exam/socialism.asp
  16. Ioz

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    I don't think anyone supports a pure communist system. I have come to the conclusion that conservatives view all aspects of life in very simple black and white terms. Unless you are a pure capitalist, then you are a pure socialist. There is no grey area with them. And unfortunately for their position their is a lot of grey area in life.
  17. ABQCOWBOY

    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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    What do you base this conclusion off of?
  18. JBond

    JBond Well-Known Member

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    Does anyone else notice similarities between Miles\TheRat and Ioz?
  19. arglebargle

    arglebargle Well-Known Member

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    Maybe he read one too many Burm posts? ;)
  20. Ioz

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    The fact that conservatives are calling Obama a socialist every chance they can get.

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