Interesting Sirius NFL Interview regarding QBs

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  1. brymatt94

    brymatt94 Well-Known Member

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    I suppose we'll know in about 3-4 years. The problem is that a lot of the underclassmen chose to go back for another year, and that had an impact on the depth.
  2. starfrombirth

    starfrombirth Well-Known Member

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    Apparently everyone who may have been on the fence about him in the 1st place. As I've said in other threads. . . I watched him play and came away very unimpressed. Yes, he made some great throws, every QB does, but the vast majority were ducks against wide open receivers with no velocity on his throws at all. Bortles impressed me much more with his arm strength and accuracy. Supposedly Bridgewater has as strong an arm. Maybe, but I didn't see it. Maybe it's just a matter of functional strength. I don't know. Again, I don't think anyone of these guys are worth a first rnd pick, even tho someone is going to, even if the fall to us. Regardless of what our needs are, we don't need these guys.
  3. Fredd

    Fredd Well-Known Member

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    IMO, I never thought much of the QB's (good players, not great)...I think that at least two get drafted in the top 10 or so and possibly 3, but I don't think they are "top 10" players in and of themselves....I see bortles and Bridgewater as the 1st tier QB's, Manziel would be in the 2nd tier (at the top of it) with Carr and Garoppolo and then guys like mettenberger and McCarron in the 3rd tier...if Murray was uninjured, I would have put him in the 2nd tier...but, none of these guys or anyone else are someone Dallas should consider before the 4th round, minimally, if at all

    my real hope is that 4 or 5 teams get antsy and take QB's before pick real fear is that no one takes a QB before #16 and then the madness begins (although, I would think teams would THEN try to trade with Dallas)....
  4. egn22

    egn22 Well-Known Member

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    But it will benefit us in terms of trade down options. Someone's gonna want to draft these guys
  5. DFWJC

    DFWJC Well-Known Member

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    They might be right.

    This is very deep QB class, but I'm not sure how top 5 worthy any of them are...yet the position causes QBs to go earlier than their talent warrants a lot of the time.

    But the depth of. This class is good. A ton of these guys are going to stick. Who knows which ones, if any, will be true franchise guys though.
  6. DallasEast

    DallasEast Cowboys 24/7/365 Staff Member

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  7. the_h0wey

    the_h0wey Well-Known Member

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    What are you talking about? A-Rod was the first overall pick by the Mariners in 1993.
  8. jimmy40

    jimmy40 Well-Known Member

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    not everyone declared for the draft.
  9. Galian Beast

    Galian Beast Well-Known Member

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    I think it makes sense. They did the same thing with Romo and tried to make him a pocket passer, and in doing so left him open to huge hits without an offensive line, and stashed one of his strengths. The 2007 romo was like magic. He still is, but he is clearly restricted.
  10. Bigdog24

    Bigdog24 Well-Known Member

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    How would Geno Smith, EJ Manual, and Matt Barkley match up to this years QB prospects,,,, better or worse than Bridgewater, Manziel, Bortels, Murray and others? IMO the 2014 class has more potential...and deeper class of solid QBs prospects.

    1. Bortles (based on future potential)
    2. Bridgewater (reminds me of Akli Smith)
    3. EJ Manual (can't stay healthy)
    4. Manziel, (boom or bust)
    5. Geno Smith (future backup QB)
    6, Murray (journeyman QB)
    7. Mettenburger (interesting prospect)
    8. Barkley (backup at best)
  11. visionary

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    Here are the facts guys

    1. 1 of the top 3 "top 10" QBs will be a franchise QB, 1 will be very good and 1 will be a journey man or bust. Your talent evaluators need to do their job. I think that is bridgewater .

    2. It is laughable to say "there is no Andrew luck in this draft" that is a cop out couch evaluator statement because luck is the best QB since Peyton and there have been plenty if great QBs between the 2. So that is not a reason not to pick a QB. Do your homework and trust your evaluation.

    3. One of the second tier QBs will turn out to be very very good and a steal . Among Carr , garoppolo , Murray and mettenberger .

    4. Every year talent evaluators tell us that we should watch the tape and not out much stick in the underwear Olympics but every year they themselves do the same. Bridgewater s downgrade is a great example of that. The guy was the cocensus first pick going into the season , had a great season, has good tape, was a top pick at the end of the college football season but a bad pro day and he should not be a top 10 pick? Give me a break.
  12. burmafrd

    burmafrd Benched

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    would not use a first on any of them. Only reason they would go in the first is because they are QBs
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  13. Hardline

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    We need as many QBs going off the board as possible before #16. But I have a feeling all the teams needing a QB will draft the position players hoping to get their QB in the 2nd round. Which is terrible news for the Cowboys.
  14. vicjagger

    vicjagger Well-Known Member

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    7 of the first 11 teams to pick have QB as their primary need in this draft, including 4 of the first 5. I don't see all of them passing (no pun intended).
  15. joseephuss

    joseephuss Well-Known Member

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    And don't forget Blaine Gabbert, Jake Locker or Brandon Weeden. Seem like good reasons for other teams not to repeat those types of overreaching mistakes, but they will. The rookie cap allows more freedom to reach for players. Teams are no longer stuck paying incredibly high salaries and bonuses for rookie QBs.

    My opinion of these QBs has not changed since the last college football season began. I don't see any as 1st round material; however, I know they will be drafted in the first. I agree with the idea that they all need some grooming and will be better off if they can sit a year or two or at least be surrounded with lots of help on the team. If they get thrown to the wolves too early they will struggle mightily and the pressure will become even greater.
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  16. CyberB0b

    CyberB0b Village Idiot

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    I think he meant the other A-Rod, Aaron Rodgers.

    Anyways, I agree. None of these guys look very special to me.
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    PJTHEDOORS Well-Known Member

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    So it is a fact that Luck is the best QB prospect since Peyton? Better than Tom Brady?
  18. MonsterD

    MonsterD Quota outta absentia

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    As a prospect, of course.
  19. MonsterD

    MonsterD Quota outta absentia

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    I agree with the draft guy, this is not a weak draft for Qbs as some are extremist pandering, it is not worth the hype being portrayed by the draft crowds and media, and certainly not living up to the crazy hype a year or so ago.
  20. big dog cowboy

    big dog cowboy THE BIG DOG Staff Member

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    I understand your thinking, but the success of the draft is determinded by all the picks made after the first round pick. That is just one piece of the puzzle. FWIW I still believe we are leaning towards trading down.

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