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Is being a top Game Day HC all that important anymore?

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by burmafrd, Jun 12, 2014.

  1. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    Used to be in the past when teams could still hide things a HC might have to adjust on the fly; but nowadays is that really his job anymore? the DC and OC are there to do that. How many times does a HC have to make a critical decision? When to go for it on 4th down; Or go for the FG. Outside of that just how much does a HC really do on a game day anymore?
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  2. Wolfpack

    Wolfpack Well-Known Member

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    Are you Jason's mom?
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  3. Chocolate Lab

    Chocolate Lab Run-loving Dino

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    What do you mean nowadays? You act like offensive and defensive coordinators are new developments.

    And as we've learned better than anyone... Head coaches make enough critical gameday decisions to win or lose you games.
  4. GloryDaysRBack

    GloryDaysRBack Well-Known Member

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    clock management is important
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  5. Doomsay

    Doomsay Well-Known Member

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    Unprovocative in the highest.
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  6. wileedog

    wileedog Well-Known Member

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    Do you really think a good HC just hands over the game to their OC and DC and hopes for the best?
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  7. DanTanna

    DanTanna Original Zone Member Zone Supporter

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    I can't count them, but Garrett alone has cost us numerous games per season. Run the clock out? Of course pass the ball every play. Inside the 5 on first down? Pas Pass Pass YEAH BABY!:mad:
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  8. jday

    jday Well-Known Member

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    At the end of the day, outside of the QB, after a loss, who do people blame? Who has to answer the media's question's in the post game presser.

    I'd say most HC have their hand in every critical desision made for the reason above - they can't just simply say, "that was the OC/DC call - next question!"
  9. Beelzebot

    Beelzebot New Member

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    If anything, it's more important now. With the available film, advanced metrics, and technology available, preparation leading up to the game is becoming easier all the time. The in game decisions are what will separate good and bad coaches.
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  10. MikeT22

    MikeT22 Active Member

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    Nah. The Campo's and Garrett's of the world is where it's at.
  11. TrailBlazer

    TrailBlazer Well-Known Member

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    HC's have the biggest influence on the team, they should at least. Look around the league. Teams that win all have excellent HC's. Carroll, Harbaugh, Payton, Belicheck, Fox. Each one of those coaches will have their teams in the playoffs. New Orleans wins 4 games without Payton, and then make the playoffs the next year with Payton. Any team that's ever won anything, regardless of the sport, had a good HC behind them pulling the strings.

    Cowboys fans especially should know the importance of having a good HC that can manage everything on gameday. As JG has flat out lost Dallas several games with his bad gameday coaching.
  12. CATCH17

    CATCH17 1st Round Pick

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    Who are the teams winning the Superbowls usually?

    It's the teams with the best QBs and head coaches.

    This is some Garrett homer / Jerry Jones logic.
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  13. Doc50

    Doc50 Original Fan Zone Supporter

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    The HC is still the captain of the ship, and he bears all the responsibility for success or failure of each game. He should therefore want and require the role of game manager, and maintain that authority; all great coaches have done that, no matter how much they delegate.

    On our case, I don't know how much JG contributes or overrules in the headphone discussions, but he does have the respect of the players; you'd have to presume they see him as that captain.
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  14. RS12

    RS12 Well-Known Member

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    Really?
  15. cml750

    cml750 Well-Known Member

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    I can't believe someone would start a thread like this after watching our moron HC squander an average of 2 - 3 games a season on unbelievably stupid game / clock management that any Pop Warner coach could manage better. The HC manages the game and the team and is the main person in charge of motivation. Our current HC couldn't even motivate the team in season ending win or go home games to division rivals the last three years (of course had he had even the slightest clue about clock management and not cost us so many games each season those games would have been meaningless).
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  16. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    Head coach calls the shots, obviously. But with communications and with the adjustments at the line or after the snap, a lot of it is in the staff and the in week preparation, as well.

    Of course, that does nothing to stop fans from exaggerating or second guessing play calls.

    We're not 8-8 instead of 11-5 because of clock management. That's a silly argument.
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  17. jnday

    jnday Well-Known Member

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    Exactly, I don't think there should be any doubt about the value of the HC on game day.
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  18. Beast_from_East

    Beast_from_East Well-Known Member

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    Jerry apparently doesn't think so.
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  19. WPBCowboysFan

    WPBCowboysFan Well-Known Member

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    Jerry?

    Jason?

    Or is this a post by one of the extended family members of the Jones family, or a Jerry operative?

    Me thinks burm is vying for an honorable mention as a Jerry operative.
  20. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    With parity reigning supreme now in the NFL, your coaching staff is even more critical. With the head coach being the most important.

    The problem in Dallas though is you can't judge coaches the same as you can the rest of the league. These coaches work for an insane owner who emasculates them while pretending he and his son are qualified to run the football operations.

    So you have powerless coaches and no real personnel department. Good luck.

    Take Sean Payton. He stood a snowball's chance in hell of succeeding here as a head coach. He goes somewhere sane and you see the kind of coach he really is.

    Anyone who judges our coaches on a level playing field with the rest of the league just doesn't get the reality of the situation at Valley Ranch.

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