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Is being a top Game Day HC all that important anymore?

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by burmafrd, Jun 12, 2014.

  1. BoysFan4ever

    BoysFan4ever Well-Known Member

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    I would guess if they weren't that important owners wouldn't be paying millions for their head guy.

    Too bad our guy on game day sucks.
  2. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    Responses are about as I figured considering the posters. Was hoping for some original thoughts but the usual suspects spew the party line.
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  3. jnday

    jnday Well-Known Member

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    What the heck, just leave Garrett in Dallas when the team has a road game. It sure as hell can't hurt.
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  4. Wolfpack

    Wolfpack Well-Known Member

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    Seriously, I think Dallas is your case study for what a team looks like with out a HC. Jason cant even decide who returns kicks on "his" team.
  5. jobberone

    jobberone Orangutans make great guitarists Staff Member

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    There is some truth in this. How much I really don't know. I suspect a little but it is poor cap management and drafting that has caused the most problems although Jerry has done on average a poor job picking HCs. Jerry is getting better as a GM. He's stopped the coaching carousel approach. The drafting and draft philosophy is getting better even though it still needs tweaking.

    Garrett is still a work in progress. That will annoy some but it is what it is. He's here and the carousel has stopped. We'll see how this team progresses over the next few years. That'll annoy some more but it is the right approach once you've invested in a coach. We've assembled a pretty good coaching staff IMO. It'll probably get tweaked, too.

    Finally, player acquisition has gotten better. I see that as the natural progression of cap improvement and better drafting which I attribute to Jerry, Stephen, Garrett, and the rest of the team.

    As the Postman said, "Things are gettin' better".
  6. the_h0wey

    the_h0wey Well-Known Member

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    Yes it is absolutely important. Watch the end of the Ravens game from 2 years ago. There was another game that year similiar to that, but I can't remember which.
  7. Yakuza Rich

    Yakuza Rich Well-Known Member

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    It's absolutely critical.

    The playing field in the NFL is not perfectly level, but it's not too far off. And if you don't have a coach that can coach the players up on game day, you're really behind the 8-ball.





    YR
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  8. Chocolate Lab

    Chocolate Lab Run-loving Dino

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    This one?

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  9. ABQCOWBOY

    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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    I actually think it's more important now then ever before. In the old days, before FA became so prevalent in the game, you had players come out of College Ball with a better understanding of schemes and situational adjustments. Now, because so many come out early and because of the way has changed so much on both sides of the ball, It think it's even more important. A lot of times, you have to adjust to things from series to series and while a lot of that is on the Coordinators and position coaches, I think you have to have a HC who understands the entire picture and how it fits into what you are trying to accomplish from a team concept point of view. With the way the league has adopted parity and how the talent levels are so much closer now, it becomes even more focused as to how you make game time adjustments. Offense and Defense have to work together and you need a guy who can tie those things and make the final call on what will work and how you are going to go about it.

    Yeah, I think it's very important.
  10. Wolfpack

    Wolfpack Well-Known Member

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    I don't think the coaching carousel has stopped. Look at the offensive coordinators or the defensive coordinators….3 each in 3 years. Thats Jerry still doing his knee jerk micro-manger GM thing which makes Jason a HC in title only.
  11. the_h0wey

    the_h0wey Well-Known Member

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    Bingo!
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  12. Ren

    Ren Well-Known Member

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    We have a QB who loves to audible out of running plays, when he's successful he showered with praise when he fails Garrett gets blamed
  13. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    what really bothers me about talking as regards to investment, at what point does that become the only excuse?
  14. Chocolate Lab

    Chocolate Lab Run-loving Dino

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    You act like he's not following the HC/OC's system.

    Come on people, it's not like Romo is audibling to pass plays whenever he randomly feels like it. He's counting the box (or whatever the key is) and checking into the alternate playcall, just as he's instructed to do.
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  15. SilverStarCowboy

    SilverStarCowboy The Actualist

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    LOL, HC doesn't matter in Dallas!
  16. Little Jr

    Little Jr Well-Known Member

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    Although I think ant hc would have a hard time here withh jj running the ship it doesn't take away the bad game day decisions that jg has made the past 3.5 years. Jj has nothing to do with that. We will be behind the 8 ball in at least 6 games this year because we will be out coached. Losing at least 3 of those games.
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  17. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    How out-coached are we really getting when we're playing for the division championship each year with a bottom-5 defense? Really? All coaches have decisions in close games that are second guessed. Yes, Jason has done a couple of really bone-headed things in games, but he's not costing us 3 wins/year. We're in bad tactical positions in games all the time because we cannot stop anybody from passing effectively against us and that's one of the two things that gets teams beat more often than not.
  18. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    And I'd counter that with you ignore the good decisions and focus on the bad. You also probably confuse a coaching decision for a QB audible.

    To me, this is all nonsense. I'll care about the quality of the coaching when the talent is good enough to win something.
  19. TrailBlazer

    TrailBlazer Well-Known Member

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    No , you were looking for someone to agree with your idiotic statements. Are HC's important? Really? Look at the teams that win. They all have good coaches. The amount of money paid to coaches proves just how crucial it is to have a good one.
  20. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    HCs are obviously super-important. The question is whether or not communications and process have evolved enough to make the in-game calls more of a team process than they used to be, where you're not relying on one single person as much as you used to have to. And I think that's probably the case. You can have people responsible for more information and have that information more readily available than you did before, and then the coach can rely on that information, discuss it quickly over the headset, and have that collective decision piped in to the QB or the defense in real time where, before, all that processing had to happen in one guy's head and had to be communicated via signals or on the sidelines. The faster the processing and the flow of information gets, the less it's dependent on any one person. That stands to reason, doesn't it?

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