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Is it time to declare Claiborne a bust?

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by AmberBeer, Apr 16, 2014.

  1. ABQCOWBOY

    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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    I don't think Serviceable is what you are looking for out of a 6th overall pick in the draft but your point is well taken. It's far too early to label him a bust, as of now.
  2. Seven

    Seven Messenger to the football Gods

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    He couldn't even do that right.

    You walk in, sign someone elses name, walk out. ;)
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  3. jnday

    jnday Well-Known Member

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    The same fans that are giving Mo the benefit of the doubt are quick to point out that Dion Jordan has been a bust. It is a double standard. My opinions are not tied to emotions for my favorite team.
  4. 187beatdown

    187beatdown Lack of Big Plays

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    This is his 3rd year. We'll see after this one. So far, he hasn't been very good, so I'm not holding my breath.
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  5. Floaty

    Floaty Well-Known Member

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    Before I'd say he was a bust....I'd try him @ FS. A lot of draftniks thought his more natural position was @ FS.
  6. big dog cowboy

    big dog cowboy THE BIG DOG Staff Member

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    There you go.
  7. TheSport78

    TheSport78 The Excellence of Execution

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    Three year rule. It's obviously a make or break season for him.
  8. FuzzyLumpkins

    FuzzyLumpkins The Boognish

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    I said this before but I think the issue with Claiborne has more to do with expectations than actual play.

    He was not getting toasted out there and like others was hampered by awful FS play not covering the backend. He would hold and armbar like in Seattle and they wouldn't let him do it. He also would hold rather then count on S help behind him.

    Blaming him for the running woes when Lawrence and Hayden out there seems disingenuous. Get him healthy and lets see what he can do.
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  9. FuzzyLumpkins

    FuzzyLumpkins The Boognish

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    He has a reading disability. It is well documented.
  10. jnday

    jnday Well-Known Member

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    He has not played well on the field . It is well documented. A reading disability is not an excuse for a record low test score. If his disability is that severe, how did he pass any if his classes at LSU?
  11. FuzzyLumpkins

    FuzzyLumpkins The Boognish

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    If you want to take the score as valid then fine. As has been noted he has a reading disability and declined to take the test. You can characterize it however you like but there is a clear cause and effect that doesn't include him acting like a 5 year old. Players decline tests all the time.

    I think if you want to call him dumb then you should be talking about him busting coverages. I know he got beat on routes but no serious mental gaffes stand out in my mind. Do you have any examples?

    I also think your comments on his play are hyperbole. He held more than he should but it wasn't just him that was getting thrown on against the Bears and Patriots. Carr got most of the single coverage and really did get torched a ffew times and opponents attacked the middle of the field a lot. That is where the free first downs were.

    Claiborne's sin was getting beat out by Orlando. Scandrick was the second best player on defense last year. There is no shame in being beat out by play like that unless you are the 6th overall pick I guess. That speaks more to how Scandrick played than it does Claiborne anyway.
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  12. brymatt94

    brymatt94 Well-Known Member

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    I think majority rules here, to label him a bust at this point is ludicrous. As fans, regardless of his Wonderlic or lack of production his first two years, we should hope that he reaches a level close to his potential this year because that means an improved defense.
  13. Gameover

    Gameover Well-Known Member

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    he's garbage. worst pick in cowboys history.
  14. Zordon

    Zordon Well-Known Member

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    I let out a dothraki tribal scream when the trade/pick was announced. Just a terrible terrible trade when you're team has so many holes.
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  15. phildadon86

    phildadon86 Active Member

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    I figured it was sarcasm lol. Just having fun with it, at this point the mo being bust threads are here as often as jerry is the devil threads, it would be nice for something new once in awhile or i will just stop coming back
  16. ConstantReboot

    ConstantReboot Well-Known Member

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    Im going to join the club and say that his a bust. I don't know what we were thinking. He certainly isn't in the same league as Deion and that was what our FO was saying. Its a shame that we spent a 2nd rounder just to move up to get him.

    I kind of thought he was going to be a bust. He just isn't fast enough to play against tougher competition. He also isn't strong enough to intimidate WRs or jam them effectively at the LOS. Who ever scouted him should be fired.
  17. the_h0wey

    the_h0wey Well-Known Member

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    No.
  18. GimmeTheBall!

    GimmeTheBall! Junior College Transfer

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    Yeth and no.

    While Wonderlic's questions are not directly related to the game, it do measure critical thinking, judgment and molecular brain function ( I think). Therefore and ipso factorum, his thinking and ability to grasp concepts is important and crucial and stuff as to learning schemes.
    I feel dizzy writing this much above my menal level.

    But he do seem to be a bust, like much of our secondary.
  19. CowboysFaninDC

    CowboysFaninDC Well-Known Member

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    he is not asked to build a rocket ship. deion sanders didn't have a great wonderlic score neither.

    and btw, mike mamula scored a 49 on his wonderlic...remember how that worked out!!!

    frank gore scored a 6,
  20. GimmeTheBall!

    GimmeTheBall! Junior College Transfer

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    OK, I was nodding my porportionately big head until you wrote LSU. If anyone can get easily by anywhere it would be LSU. I remember when I applied there and they laughed. Well, I got into a good JC and now who is laughing? I will tell you who, LSU and the guy who collect my student loan.
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