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Is it time to declare Claiborne a bust?

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by AmberBeer, Apr 16, 2014.

  1. big dog cowboy

    big dog cowboy THE BIG DOG Staff Member

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    Mo gets the benefit of the doubt from Cowboy fans due to the circumstances the last 2 years.

    Otherwise fans (including me) would be all over him.
  2. AmberBeer

    AmberBeer Well-Known Member

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    Deion never sucked wind like Claiborne has.
  3. AmberBeer

    AmberBeer Well-Known Member

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    So far he has been. You cannot deny that.
  4. AmberBeer

    AmberBeer Well-Known Member

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    Yea, but instead of getting better his second year, he regressed to horrible status.
  5. jnday

    jnday Well-Known Member

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    I can't think of a shut down CB that has started their career by playing so poorly. He is looking like an average career may be all that can be expected of him.
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  6. Fredd

    Fredd Well-Known Member

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    to your point on Dion Jordan, I would love to see him with the star...I just wouldn't give up what they want...I think Marinelli could get something VERY useful out of this guy
  7. ChldsPlay

    ChldsPlay Well-Known Member

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    You are just making things up. You can't point to his play to support your opinion.
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  8. AmberBeer

    AmberBeer Well-Known Member

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    Sure I can. I watched every game last year and saw him repeatedly get toasted playing CB on the 3rd worst NFL defense of all time.
  9. Bizwah

    Bizwah Well-Known Member

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    Sigh....unbelievable how we have threads like this every year. If Playersoandso isn't an all-star as a rookie, then they must be a bust. How many players have we seen turn it on after a couple of seasons? I can remember people saying the same thing about Lee and Murray.

    Parcells and Landry always had a three year rule. Why can't we at least wait that long?
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  10. ChldsPlay

    ChldsPlay Well-Known Member

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    When did you see it? Please give examples. Specifically from the 2nd half of the Denver game on. I'll keep waiting, just like I have been for months for someone to actually provide evidence of this suckage they keep complaining about.
  11. AmberBeer

    AmberBeer Well-Known Member

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    Just isolate on him in any game. It's quite obvious if you know what you're looking at.
  12. justbob

    justbob The Peacemaker Staff Member

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    Enough with the shots at each other and negative post after negative post..
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  13. Seven

    Seven Messenger to the football Gods

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    I'm refering to your " My opinions are not tied to emotions for my favorite team." statement.


    You wear this team and some of it's athletes on your sleeve. No biggie tho, most do.


    I think Mo needs another year myself, but he won't ever tout his draft position, IMO. Tackling alone excludes him from that.
  14. CyberB0b

    CyberB0b Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    Because it's a different era. Rookies are expected to perform, especially top 10 guys. High schools have pro class facilities now. They run complex schemes in high school now. That, combined with the price of free agents relative to first contract rookies, it makes it imperative to get production. The average NFL career is less than 3 years now.

    Also, the free agency era and salary cap means you can't park a guy for 5 years like Landry could. There are multiple reasons why you shouldn't have to wait 3 years to get production. It's not a magic number.
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  15. ChldsPlay

    ChldsPlay Well-Known Member

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    Of course, the usual lack of evidence response. The thing that amazes me is the sucking was so bad, that the other teams didn't isolate him too.
  16. Corso

    Corso Well-Known Member

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    You're putting old boy on the spot.
    I like that.
    You're right- his response was definitely on the weak side of the sauce.

    I expect him to come back with the big guns now...
    Let's sit back and watch!
  17. AmberBeer

    AmberBeer Well-Known Member

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    I can't believe anyone can actually defend his play of last year. He was awful.

    He's had 2 int's and 1 fumble recovery in 2 years. Pro Football Focus ranked him 90th among 110 qualifying corners. He was beaten for an average of 16.6 yards per catch, which was the seventh-highest rate in the NFL. He gave up seven catches on eight targets in Week 4 against San Diego and six on seven three weeks later in Philadelphia. Riley Cooper abused him badly in that game. In that game, he gave up 3 4th quarter completions for first downs facing 3rd string QB Barkley.
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  18. tm1119

    tm1119 Well-Known Member

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    He's got until about week 6 to prove something to me or, yeah, he's a bust. We are talking about the 6th overall pick here, not some mid 1st round pick who only had mild expectations coming into the league. The 6th overall pick shouldn't need 3 years to develop no matter what anybody here has to say.
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  19. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    I do deny it.

    So far, he's been a disappointment, but that's not the same thing, at all.
  20. AmberBeer

    AmberBeer Well-Known Member

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    Semantics.

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