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Is Martin really the best guard?

Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by JoeyBoy718, Mar 7, 2014.

  1. Fla Cowpoke

    Fla Cowpoke Well-Known Member

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    I think you screwed up....don't you mean you wouldn't be surprised to see some 5th round OL starting?
  2. bodi

    bodi Active Member

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    no body knows this for sure

    heck it could be a UDFA - to a 2 to 6 rounder
  3. JoeyBoy718

    JoeyBoy718 Well-Known Member

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    I just wouldn't draft somebody simply because of versatility. Heck, Bernadeau is our most versatile lineman but he's far from our best.

    That being said, it seems like Martin might be the most technically sound lineman in the draft but his size would put him at a disadvantage to most tackles in the league. Whereas guys like Robinson, Matthews and Lewan are just physical freaks.
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  4. xwalker

    xwalker Well-Known Member

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    There are several guys with upside in the later rounds, but the middle rounds don't look good in terms of immediate starters, IMO unless maybe Quarles fall to the 3rd.

    Which specific players do you like in the later rounds?
  5. xwalker

    xwalker Well-Known Member

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    Yes, I often leave out the n't, Thanks.
  6. dogberry

    dogberry Well-Known Member

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    X is there anyone we could draft that would start at guard but be capable of playing tackle. This could be 1st, 2nd round, or beyond.

    I'm overreacting to our loss to Minn when Adams and Colombo were both hurt. Colombo did continue playing while hurt.

    The Cowboys keep 7 on the game day roster from the OL.

    Leary and Free would be the two replacement guards.

    The new guy and Parnell would be the replacement tackles.

    Bern is the 2nd center.

    Have we lost more than two offensive linemen in one game?

    While I'm annoying you, do you have a short list of first round players we would draft if they were there at 16?
  7. Gaede

    Gaede Well-Known Member

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    I'm not sold on Martin at 16. I think we can get a real impact player at that spot, and coming away with a G in rd. 1 when there is so much depth at that position, would be a major letdown.

    Cowboys need someone who can step in and instantly give us something significant.
  8. SilverStarCowboy

    SilverStarCowboy The Actualist

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    I'm sold that Martin can step in the starting lineup and give us something imeadiately @16 @ either Guard or RT he is an upgrade from Day1.
  9. Gaede

    Gaede Well-Known Member

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    Definitely agree he would. But at 16 in a deep draft, we can get more than a solid contributor. We can get a playmaker.
  10. AsthmaField

    AsthmaField Outta bounds

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    I like Martin at G, but for Dallas, Su'a-Filo might be the better player... but I'm not sure about that. Martin is a pretty impressive player and I do think he'd come in day 1 and help us, much like Frederick did last year. However, I also think Su'a-Filo would come in and start right away too, for a cheaper price.

    Like many here have said, Martin's ability to play out at tackle raises his value, so he likely will be drafted higher than Su'a-Filo. For Dallas, that is not really necessary because we would just want him for guard. We might as well take the cheaper route.

    At least that's my thoughts on it.
  11. SilverStarCowboy

    SilverStarCowboy The Actualist

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    Don't trust Free as far as you can throw him. Ironically on this Board most had a lot less trust than eye.

    One or two Seasons doesn't make a Career player what happens if Doug drops off in the map again.

    Martin has a lot of value for this scenario, more than Su'a-Filo who "might be the better player" .. at Guard.
  12. SilverStarCowboy

    SilverStarCowboy The Actualist

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    Since DT is one of the DEEPEST positions in the 2014 NFL Draft there are plenty to choose from.
  13. BigD5

    BigD5 Active Member

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    Filo will be a solid starter for 10 yrs. Martin is a bust waiting to happen
  14. Sydla

    Sydla Active Member

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    LOL.
  15. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    now run along and let the adults talk.
  16. BigD5

    BigD5 Active Member

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    haha

    I don't really see what people see in Martin. He's soft. That's not good if you want to be an NFL offensive lineman
  17. DoctorChicken

    DoctorChicken Well-Known Member

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    I like Gabe Jackson. We could find him in the 2nd, and he's a lot more "nasty" than Martin.
  18. visionary

    visionary Well-Known Member

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    give me jackson or sua filo in rd 2 or even better, brandon thomas or botino in rd 3
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  19. KDM256

    KDM256 Active Member

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    I'm not sold on Martin either especially inthe 1st round. Yes he could be a good player eventually but nothing about the kid screams take me with the 16th pick.

    A lot more quality guards we can get inthe later rounds oppose grabbing a guard inthe first. I like Gabe Jackson more than Martin btw

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