Is the RKG mentality conductive to defensive weakness?

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by halcyon, Nov 12, 2013.

  1. halcyon

    halcyon Member

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    I am really trying to understand, why irrespective of the coaches or schemes (that have changed I.E. Phillips, Ryan, Kiffin) , the Cowboys have bee "destroyed" on defense (or at least cannot hold late game leads) for at least the last two or three years. I fully understand that injuries play a very importante part in all of this, but I am beginning to wonder if not a little "thug mentality" is convenient?
  2. CaptainCreed

    CaptainCreed Active Member

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    It means missing out on talent. Kenny Stills caught a bomb against us Sunday and was not drafted until the fifth because of character issues.
  3. dmq

    dmq If I'm so pretty, why am I available?

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    I think RKG is one of the few things working for us right now.
  4. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Backwoods Sexy Staff Member

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    I think it was character risks AND injury history in college IIRC.
  5. T-RO

    T-RO Well-Known Member

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    The right kind of guy is the right kind of guy. But you still need talent and good health. The Patriot template is the one we should pursue and New England has always been very professional in conducting its business.

    We don't need choir boys but we need professionals who play and live with some self-control.

    The last thing we need to do is go back to bringing in T.O. and PacMan types. They didn't bring home championships....and they won't.
  6. halcyon

    halcyon Member

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    Personally, I am not opposed to the RKG approach, and I still support Garrett as the Coach. I believe that the Cowboys problems rest elsewhere; but having watched this proud franchise for over 40 years, I cannot understand (and it is really painful to see) the how bad its has got....
  7. CaptainCreed

    CaptainCreed Active Member

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    I don't think he missed a game in college, Ryan Broyles was injured a few times at Oklahoma but do not remember Stills ever being hurt. I just used him as an example. You can easily be burned by going outside of RKGs as well a la Aaron Hernandez, Titus Young. But in the long run you miss talent here and there. With great coaching and management you should be able to tell a guy "Hey if you screw up, see ya." If the RKG draft picks/undrafted signings are not turning out great because of less talent, it is a risk both ways.
  8. ChldsPlay

    ChldsPlay Well-Known Member

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    T.O. type got us a lot closer than this organization has been in a very long time, and PacMan has been having a lot more success too. I'd take another T.O. a million times before another Garrett.
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  9. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Backwoods Sexy Staff Member

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    I am pretty sure he missed some for a Concussion and I think he missed more than just that one time.
  10. T-RO

    T-RO Well-Known Member

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    And I'd take Garrett a billion times over another T.O. This team has still never fully healed from the divisive toxicity he brought. But I don't care to dive back into that endless discussion.

    Meanwhile PacMan's fans in Cinci are calling for him to be cut or sued•. He's had yet more brushes with the law. It's just endless headache, heartache and loserville with him.

    *Just Google it
  11. Zordon

    Zordon Well-Known Member

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    RKG=garrett yes men.

    he's ripped all personality out of this locker room.
  12. Hook'em#11

    Hook'em#11 Well-Known Member

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    You have watched this team for over 40 years.. ? Seen this team actually have winning successful, respected teams. And coaches..

    Yet, you still back this coach?

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  13. khiladi

    khiladi Well-Known Member

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    If the offense can't sustain drives or put up points with a comfortable lead, then the defense can't afford to play aggressive.. It's that simple and one of the reasons why neither Wade nor Ryan's defense was aggressive and channeled lots of turnovers...
  14. Future

    Future Intramural Legend

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    Yep. Dez showed some, and the combination of JG and those perennial pansies Ware and Witten sucked it out of him

    And to the OP, sure, I think there is a direct link between emotion and successful defense. Its hard to be emotional when JG is your head coach ripping all the life out of the game. Despite the injuries, the DL is clearly our strongest unit - in terms of effort and playing to potential anyways - and they are coached by the only guy and lead by one of the handful of players who have any emotion/leadership skills. Its not a coincidence, imo.
  15. Bwareinrings94

    Bwareinrings94 Well-Known Member

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    RKG is similar to the "Offensive balance" thing. I believe Garrett sort of parrots what he thinks a coach is supposed to say. No coach in the league wants bad apples and most coaches in training talk about and focus on balance. The ones that do it best find the right talent and character guys for their system and run their systems knowing they will have whatever balance is needed if they execute their system correctly. I also believe that the definition of RKG is similar to what my 11 year old would describe if I asked him what kind of person makes a good football player. We could make a good list of RKGs that are useless beginning with Tebow.
  16. StarBoyz83

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    I think its because the 4-3 sucks thats why nobody runs it.
  17. Blue Eyed Devil

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    What about the Ratliff situation, Carter giving up on plays, and Hatcher saying the he didn't want to play so he didn't "put bad tape out there" before free agency is RKG?

    RKG is just propaganda for press conferences, it's not real.
  18. TwoDeep3

    TwoDeep3 Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    When was the last time you saw this team savage this league and hold nothing back and have a killer instinct as they go for the throat on every play?

    Jimmy Johnson...but not for the immediate reason you might think.

    Jimmy drafted players that were animals when the ball was snapped. They played with fear of the head coach and had a mindset they were better than every other team and showed it daily.

    They had fiery leaders like Irvin and Aikman who took the head coaches temperament to the field and held people accountable.

    Now drift back through the list of coaches since.

    Switzer - have a hotdog and a coke and tell a joke
    Gailey - handcuffed by aging stars and an owner who thinks he is the coach
    Campo - The Poodle with a broken Noodle
    Parcels - came for the check, showed he was too old school to lead
    Phillips - Stay-puft Marshmellow man looking for Ghostbusters
    Garrett - No fire, no aggression, no accountability, no discipline

    There are clear reasons why this team has fallen.

    They have yet to assemble a team under a head coach that has a clue without interference from a NFMP - non-football madden player

    You do the math on who that is.
  19. dexternjack

    dexternjack World Traveler

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    Garrett's offensive scheme is almost identical to my Texas Hold-Em scheme. We both play passive, sit back and wait. We observe while occasionally going for a mini win. We both wait for the opponents mistake rather than pushing the envelope and playing aggressive. Only one of these schemes can lead to a victory and it isn't in football.

    You can play not to lose in poker and do fine but you can't in the NFL.
  20. TwoDeep3

    TwoDeep3 Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    Can't play with scared money. On the field or felt.

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