Is this really what America has become?

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  1. DallasEast

    DallasEast Cowboys 24/7/365 Staff Member

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    In Hartford, Conn., an elderly man is fighting for his life after a hit-and-run incident that was caught on tape. The victim is listed in critical condition, paralyzed from the neck down.

    Frankly, I'm speechless. Simple human compassion has practically died in this country.
  2. Hostile

    Hostile The Duke

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    I saw that late last night. I can't believe those people at all.
  3. theebs

    theebs Believe!!!!

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    saw that on cbs11 last night. The guy was nailed and no one helped him. Its a shame. He is paralyzed from the neck down.

    How can you not help?

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  5. bbgun

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    If it was a little girl or cute dog, they would have helped. Old guy? He's expendable.
  6. DallasFanSince86

    DallasFanSince86 Pessimism Sucks

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    I saw that on our local news at noon, today. I was shocked at how cars were going by and people would just walk by and not help. A cop finally saw him and stopped to help the poor guy.

    Today's society sucks, at least on common decency.
  7. Cajuncowboy

    Cajuncowboy Preacher From The Black Lagoon

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    This country is heading for a major shakeup because of stuff like this.

    Sad, really sad.
  8. bbgun

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    Had it been a mama duck and her ducklings crossing the street, pedestrians would have thrown themselves in front of cars.
  9. hairic

    hairic Well-Known Member

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    It happens a lot all over the world. The problem is that people see lots of other people around and assume someone else will help.

    Basically, the less people that are around someone in need, the more likely they are to help.
  10. theogt

    theogt Surrealist Zone Supporter

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    They probably did the right thing. Obviously someone called 911 immediately because the cops got there quick, fast, and in a hurry. If someone gets hit like that I don't think you should move them for fear of risking further injury.
  11. theebs

    theebs Believe!!!!

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    well yea I dont mean go and play doctor, but at least ask him questions or see if he is in shock or blacked out..something.

    but yea you can not do anything physical, you could accidentally kill someone like that.
  12. DemonBlood

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    I thought I read that the police had no calls to them from that area? I could be wrong though. I hope they find the piece of trash that hit him :mad:
  13. theogt

    theogt Surrealist Zone Supporter

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    Several people called.
  14. DemonBlood

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  15. bbgun

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    Exactly. No one said anything about moving him, but how 'bout comforting him till help arrives? You'd think they were approaching a rabid dog.
  16. burmafrd

    burmafrd Benched

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    This is the result of the ME generation BS. Do your own thing. etc.
  17. SuspectCorner

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    For Immediate Release: Wednesday, June 4, 2008


    (Hartford) - On Friday, May 30, 2008, at approximately 5:45 p.m. Hartford Police were responding to an unrelated call for service when one of the responding officers came upon a pedestrian lying in the road in front of 33 Park Street. The pedestrian was found to be suffering from head injuries after being struck by a motor vehicle. Emergency Medical Services were called and transported the pedestrian, later identified as Angel Torres, 78 years of age, of Hartford, to Hartford Hospital.

    Witnesses reported that two vehicles were being operated in a reckless manner North on Main Street. The front vehicle, described as a tan older model Toyota, was being chased by a blue or black older model Honda. The vehicles proceeded through a red traffic control signal on Main Street taking a left onto Westbound Park Street. The vehicles crossed the center line, traveling against traffic, in front of 33 Park Street where the Honda struck Mr. Torres. The two vehicles continued West on Park Street and turned right onto Northbound John Street, evading the scene.

    Mr. Torres is listed in critical condition at Hartford Hospital, paralyzed from the neck down.

    The Hartford Police Crime Scene Division has taken control of the investigation. The incident was caught on video which has been enhanced by the Connecticut State Police Forensic Science Laboratory. The video clip showing the suspect vehicles can be viewed by clicking on the link below or by visiting the HPD's website,

    Hartford police ask anyone with information regarding this incident and/or the identity of the suspects to please contact Crime Scene Division (CSD) Detective Michael Chauvin at 860-757-4229 or CSD Commander Sergeant Jason Thody at 860-757-4225.

    Video of May 30th, 2008, hit and run of Angel Torres at 33 Park Street, Hartford: Park St. 5-30-08.wmv

    Contact: Nancy M. Mulroy, Public Information Officer, Hartford Police Department, (860) 757-4021
    Visit www.Hartford.Gov/Police for more Hartford Police News
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  18. SuspectCorner

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    Police: We got four 911 calls after hit-and-run

    HARTFORD, Connecticut (AP) -- Police released audio tapes of two 911 calls made shortly after a 78-year-old man was struck by a car and then left in a Hartford, Connecticut, street by passing motorists and pedestrians.

    A frame of the video, marked 5:49:31 p.m., show a car bearing down a man walking in the street.

    1 of 3 The tapes were released two days after police Chief Daryl Roberts publicized a surveillance video of a car striking Angel Arce Torres and leaving him paralyzed in the busy street.

    The video showed cars zooming past and bystanders staring at Torres from the sidewalk.

    No one in the video stepped forward to help Torres, prompting Roberts to declare, "We no longer have a moral compass." Watch the impact and idle bystanders »

    City officials later acknowledged that police received four 911 calls immediately after the accident. They released portions of two calls on Friday.

    "Send an ambulance quick, quick, quick, he's bleeding hard," one man implores a 911 operator.

    Torres, a retired forklift operator, was struck in the two-way street after buying milk at a grocery. He was hospitalized Friday in critical condition.

    The video shows two cars veer across the center line and one of the cars striking Torres. Both cars then dart down a side street.

    Gov. M. Jodi Rell on Friday offered a $10,000 reward for information leading to the arrest and conviction of the motorists involved in the accident.
  19. SuspectCorner

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    Chilling video of hit-and-run accident released

    Police say it shows a city that has lost its moral compass; victim paralyzed

    HARTFORD, Conn. - A 78-year-old man is tossed like a rag doll by a hit-and-run driver and lies motionless on a busy city street as car after car goes by.

    Pedestrians gawk but appear to do nothing. One driver stops briefly but then pulls back into traffic. A man on a scooter slowly circles the victim before zipping away.

    The chilling scene — captured on video by a streetlight surveillance camera — has touched off a round of soul-searching in Hartford, with the capital city's biggest newspaper blaring "SO INHUMANE" on the front page and the police chief lamenting: "We no longer have a moral compass."

    "We have no regard for each other," said Chief Daryl Roberts, who on Wednesday released the video in hopes of making an arrest in the accident that left Angel Arce Torres in critical condition.

    However, Roberts and other city officials backtracked on Thursday. After initially saying he was unsure whether anyone called 911, he and other city officials appeared at a news conference in which they said that four people dialed 911 within a minute of the accident, and that Torres received medical attention shortly after that.

    "This moved too quickly," said Calixto Torres, City Council president. "People were putting information out too quickly."

    Roberts said his initial angry reaction was based on what he saw in the video. "The video was very graphic and sent a very bad message," the police chief said.

    The hit-and-run took place in daylight last Friday at about 5:45 p.m. in a working-class neighborhood close to downtown in this city of 125,000.

    'Like a dog they left him'
    In the video, Torres, a retired fork-lift operator, walks in the two-way street just blocks from the state Capitol after buying milk at a grocery. A tan Toyota and a dark Honda that is apparently chasing it veer across the center line, and Torres is struck by the Honda. Both cars then dart down a side street.

    Nine cars pass Torres as a few people stare from the sidewalk. Some approach Torres, but most stay put until a police cruiser responding to an unrelated call arrives on the scene after about a minute and a half.

    "Like a dog they left him there," said a disgusted Jose Cordero, 37, who was with friends Thursday not far from where Torres was struck. Robert Luna, who works at a store nearby, said: "Nobody did nothing."

    One witness, Bryant Hayre, told the Courant he didn't feel comfortable helping Torres, who he said was bleeding and conscious.

    The accident — and bystanders' apparent callousness — dominated morning radio talk shows.

    "It was one of the most despicable things I've seen by one human being to another," the Rev. Henry Brown, a community activist, said in an interview. "I don't understand the mind-set anymore. It's kind of mind-boggling. We're supposed to help each other. You see somebody fall, you want to offer a helping hand."

    Father fights for life
    The victim's son, Angel Arce, begged the public for help in finding the driver. "My father is fighting for his life," he said.

    The hit-and-run is the second violent crime to shock Hartford this week. On Monday, former Deputy Mayor Nicholas Carbone, 71, was beaten and robbed while walking to breakfast. He remains hospitalized and faces brain surgery.

    "There was a time they would have helped that man across the street. Now they mug and assault him," police chief said. "Anything goes."
  20. vta

    vta The Proletariat

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    No. It's a ****ty neighborhood, with cretins for citizens.
    It doesn't represent a collective 'us'.

    I slid off the road on a patch of ice some time ago and plenty of people stopped their commute, long after the fact, to see if I needed help. My wife had a flat, which her father was clearly fixing and a stranger stopped and asked if he could help and did. Is it reported as 'what we've become'? Of course not.

    This kind of negative reporting is the problem, not the incidents of this kind.

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