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It's put up or shut up time for Garrett

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by tecolote, Dec 7, 2012.

  1. tecolote

    tecolote Well-Known Member

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    I think Garrett is one of the worst coaches in the league and the worst in Cowboys history.

    Having said that, he has these last 4 games to make a statement and prove a lot of us wrong, I do believe his job is on the line, I think there is no way Jerry keeps him if Dallas embarasess themselves in these last 4 games, the pressure from fans and media would be too much.

    I want to be wrong about Garrett, I want the Cowboys to run the table, yes we have injuries but every team has them, Pitt won in Baltimore with Charlie Batch for crying out loud. We have the QB to do it. There are no excuses, just go out there and win the games and Garrett can run away with the job.

    I want to eat the hell out of that crow.
  2. CATCH17

    CATCH17 1st Round Pick

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    I wish it was but as long as he has a Pro Bowl QB he'll always look somewhat decent enough for Jerry to stick with him.
  3. Aven8

    Aven8 Well-Known Member

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    We win these and he can get another year in my book. Any losses outside of that or a foul up in game mgmt and he's a goner!

    I still won't like it, but I will gladly eat crow if we win the SB. :D
  4. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    I've heard sentiments like this before. I'm not sure I get it. I understand being disappointed with last season and this one. But how, looking at where we're at--winning three of the last four under some adverse circumstances (mostly injuries on defense and given what we've all seen with the problems our OTs have had this season)--aren't you at least pleased that the NFCE is still within reach at this point? I mean, I get saying it's shut-up time if we lose out (not sure I agree with that, but I definitely understand it). But, if we were to win out, for example, go 10-6 or even 9-7 and somehow win the East with the interior of the defense gutted, I'd say that's a decent accomplishment for year two of a reorganization project.

    Isn't it? Granted, I think most of the play calling second guess if Garrett is silly. And it cracks me up that our fans have actually convinced themselves that he deserves all the blame for the first half (we're unprepared, obviously) and none of the credit for the second halves (we abandoned the game plan, obviously). I think the clock management stuff is real, and we obviously have red zone play calling/execution limitations. But he's far from the worst coach in our history (Campo wins that in a landslide), and there are a bunch of coaches in worse shape in the league right now. I'm surprised, I guess that our fans are so down on the guy given that the team is actually still obviously in contention.
  5. Howardlittleton64

    Howardlittleton64 Benched

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    It is inexcusable for your team to be totally unprepared to play the first half of every game. We once again are among the league leaders in penalties. We were told players would be prepared, that the team would be prepared, the first half and the game management issues contradict that. We were told players were going to be held accountable, and that this would be disciplined. The pre snap penalties alone discredit that. What I don't get as how some fans look at this team and the staff and not be ticked.,
  6. Dave_in-NC

    Dave_in-NC Well-Known Member

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    You don't see any thing wrong with what you typed there?
  7. Ultra Warrior

    Ultra Warrior 6 Million Light-years beyond believability.

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    Guess you were born after the Campo years.
  8. tecolote

    tecolote Well-Known Member

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    I think it's neck and neck with those two, but as I said in my post, I would love to be wrong.
  9. Aven8

    Aven8 Well-Known Member

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    Right. I heard a telling stat the other night for the Gents against the Skins. NY had over 9 penalties for the first time since 2010.?!. Are you kidding me? That's our average for crying out loud!

    We stink and this "small" stuff, as Romo always says, needs to get cleaned up big time.
  10. REDVOLUTION

    REDVOLUTION Return to Dominance

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    It's put up or shut up time for Garrett


    No. It's not.
  11. junk

    junk I've got moxie

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    My two biggest complaints about Garrett:

    1. The offense has seemed like a disorganized mess all year. I actually think they have regressed.

    2. Outside of maybe the season opener, when have you thought "Wow, Dallas really had a better game plan, were better prepared and better coached than the opponent?"
  12. SkinsandTerps

    SkinsandTerps Redskins Forever

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    Not the worst in their history...but among them.
  13. tecolote

    tecolote Well-Known Member

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    To me, personaly, it is. I want to see the progress some people think there is. On the field for once.

    That's not a lot to ask.
  14. obidiah

    obidiah New Member

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    Perfect response...poor Campo
  15. REDVOLUTION

    REDVOLUTION Return to Dominance

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    I hear ya. I want it yesterday too.

    Like in years past.. Looks like we are about to click, turn the corner, take it to next lever... Whatever you call it :) just want it to happen. At this point it's in the players NOT Garrett.
  16. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    Not enough complaining about Jason Garrett?

    1. I think they'd regressed, too. Though mostly because the OTs regressed, and because of the problems at OC, injuries to Murray, and the fact that we really missed Robinson most of the year. I don't think we've seen all year what was envisioned for the offense, but it was intended to be built around Demarco Murray and Callahan's ZBS.

    2. Not sure where this game plan criticism comes from, but I'd pay good money to hear the posters who complain about it the loudest actually try to describe it from week to week. I'd bet good money the descriptions would be almost incomprehensible. As for better prepared, I don't have an opinion on that because I don't know what basis people are using for measuring the level of preparation. My guess is that's code for the number of penalties teams get. As for better coaching, you'd be hard pressed to convince me we won six games this season out of 12 with a limited OL and a patchwork defense and an injured running game while being outcoached.
  17. dware94

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    When you have somebody like Free as your RT, penalties will always be a problem because he has to do whatever he can to avoid Romo getting killed.
  18. CowboyMcCoy

    CowboyMcCoy Business is a Boomin

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    I feel the same way, eating crow and all. I do know this. If we don't make the playoffs, Garrett is gone.
  19. Beast_from_East

    Beast_from_East Well-Known Member

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    See, most of us fans dont view Garrett as in yr 2 of a reorganization project. Most of us know that Garrett has been here since 2007 and Romo still has to tell the WRs where to line up.

    We have botched numerous games either by Garrett not properly managing the clock or not using timeouts effectively. If you want to get into play calling, how about calling 62 pass plays when he knows our o-line is CFL caliber. How about blowing a 3 TD lead because you want to pass the ball everydown against Detroit. How about needing only 1 first down to beat the Pats and you run FB dive 3 straight times and punt to Tom Brady. How about iceing your own kicker, or not even trying to get closer on game winning FG attempts.

    I could go on and on and on, but I think you get the point. Most of us fans have not forgot about this stuff and you wonder why the fan base is so down on Opie?

    Seriously?
  20. big dog cowboy

    big dog cowboy THE BIG DOG Staff Member

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    Prepare for disappointment.

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