Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by Hostile, Jul 3, 2012.
Spend a lot of time at video arcades collecting information?
At the risk of you thinking I am picking a fight, which is not intended at all, reread what you said.
The same can be said for all the times people have defended Jerry, but the results have been the same year in and year out.
So either he has no influence on the team, and due to the results, he has no business being the GM.
He has a great deal of influence on the team, and due to the results, he has no business being the GM.
I just don't see a third option here.
But Lord forbid an actual intelligent discussion breaks out on this subject.
Please post the link to this comment by Bright.
I am not disputing this occurred, but that would have changed several things about the deal.
Landry would have known he was gone regardless. When he found out from Schramm that Jones bought the team and would replace him he went to Austin.
So why would he stick around if Bright let it be known he was a lame duck?
I'd like to see something that supports this.
I said it at the time and I have said it many times since....and here we go again. That loss started the decline of this core. Sure we won a playoff game after that...but that was the best team we have had since the early 90s. We probably would not have beaten the Pats in the Super Bowl. But we would have beaten the Packers in the NFC title game...and that would have changed the entire "perception" of Tony Romo and this team. I also think it would have done wonders for the confidence of some of our core players (Ware, Witten, Romo, Ratliff etc....)
Not picking a fight either, just saying you may want to focus on the entire message rather than the messenger. If you can.
Bold red below for emphasis.
Which says nothing about why people hang onto Jerry like an old memory of the hot girl you wanted to date in high school but didn't.
Heaven knows I've tried to get you guys to let him go. Old habits are hard to break I guess. Cling on.
Well put. I like Hostile's overall write-up, a good summary of junctures throughout post Tom history.
Ok, what the hell is it between TwoDeep3 and Hos. I mean, seriously!
Well, I know this is a rhetorical question, but damn! What the hell? How can two grown *** men, that have never met in person (I presume) go back and forth like "Grumpy Old Men" on a freakin' message board for so long.. Seriously, can someone fill me in? Probably not, oh well. What the hell, men.........over??
By the way, I was completely calm while typing the aforementioned message.
I have a different opinion than he does so he's mad at me. He posted a comment that was extremely wrong (That the Rams and Saints are division rivals who play twice a year so it is understandable why the Rams could beat the Saints), I corrected him on it, so he hates me. No, I don't understand it. No I don't understand why he comes to the site looking for my posts, following me around like this. Nothing about it makes sense to me, but I have had enough, so I fire back.
Ok, now I know. Thanks, I was just wondering. By the way, I would have to agree with your argument.
Oh, I will expound TwoDeep3, but only if you ask. And no, I am not being a smart arse. :starspin
He was a monitor on another site, so some of this apparantly is sensed in a ram's head butting ritual for perceived vantage point. Hos, don't worry, he is non-stop insultive of me for over eight years now. Almost gleaming with a sense of entitlement. Definitely not encompassing the arguments continually levied and constructed.
I do like his continued loyalty to the team...even if he attempts to make many not in similar disgust feel the same.
The sum total of blame to TwoDeep, has centered on Jerry Jones...and before his release, Wade Phillps.
But when you offer, even a chance was presented by yourself, as to any type of venting...instead, a line in the sand had to be constructed to toss a cow patty from.
Hos, to the point, I greatly appreciate your objectiveness, easy reading style, and depersonalized topical handlings.
When confronted directly, as TwoDeep often does, hey, one can stand ground as he 'feels' then and there. But Hos, you as a courteous being, usually retain a sense of humor and perspectives.:starspin
I already know your metal, my friend...it's not needed here.:star:
Instead of anchoring in an endless picture of gloom and preordained failure, let's try something a touch different here:
Change enters the picture this season, not only for the Cowboys, but for the rest of the NFC East as well.
Let's take a quick glance at the Giants...
They were a team, despite their final run, that would not have even reached the playoffs period, if Miles Austin hadn't lost a perfectly thrown pass in the lights.
What has changed? Well try resigning an injured CB Terrell Thomas. They restructured a contract for Osi Umenyiora. They added LB Keith Rivers. OH,
and added Martellus Bennett.
They lost Brandon Jacobs...and in the draft added some depth for skill positions: RB David Wilson, WR Rueben Randle, and TE Adrien Robinson.
Well, is anyone really over awed?*(taken from Star Magazine, by Jeff Sullivan, July 2012 issue.)
The Eagles are probably in the best postition, following a strong four game run at the conclusion of last season.
They well could have had the best draft in the league. They added DT Fletcher Cox, and Michael Kendricks at linebacker.
Some are even thinking that in the third round, the Eagles got the steal of the draft with QB Nick Foles.
The team traded for LB DeMecco Ryans, and dealt disgruntled CB Asante Samuel.
But this team's 'achiles' heal may have been the blown Achilles tendon by left offensive tackle, Jason Peters. But open the gate to Michael Vick, and with his injury history, who knows how this will end up.
They well could be a top five team, but at some points, they will be challenged now. *(taken from Star Magazine, July 2012 by Jeff Sullivan)
Rueben Randle was pretty good value in 2. Adrien Robinson has a ton of upside. Jayron Hosely was good value too if he can get his head on straight. I thought they had a pretty good draft.
They'll get Beatty back which should help the OL.
The difference between the Giants and Dallas is that they seem to thrive on adversity while Dallas wilts.
You say it better than most, as usual. :bow:
One can't draw any of your final analysis that you provide. Know what a pair of white shorts are for?
Maybe you can venture into a comparison between the fourth round tight end and Dallas' own James Hanna. This should prove quite 'choice' as without prior exhibition of a gutless cowpattie view, you have nothing to shovel into that player's boxers as well.
Maybe then, you would be limited by the player's actual, and not stain provided lack of talents you provide for them.
You NEVER see that Dallas goes through normal and yearly changes. Therefore, that controls you...and not the actual valued that is attempted to be discussed. To quote a psychological term, that is in fact...abnormal.
That approaches a chemical type of unsatiable desire just not to agree...which could be a blood or hormonal basis.
I've added the element of James Hanna already, and correctly. But that wasn't done specificly for your condescending comment. You find the ference, or just go straight into a comparison.
Better yet, compare the actual changes occuring to this Dallas defense, to those of the Giants. Then go back to Miles Austin missing a perfectly thrown pass...not because of a lack of guts, but from not seeing that ball.
By the way, tell me that Carter/Lee; Ware/Spencer; Lissimore - Ratliff - and Hatcher; or Carr, Claiborne, Sensabaugh, or Pool...any, have proven themselves as gutless!
O'fer...let's hear it. You made the continual crap analysis....
Step up to the plate, and cross compare some now...
True dat, all this new I'm a leader and he's a leader is like childs play to the professional.
Dallas is waaay behind the curve, they are getting old and it's not pretty.
Leadership should come from the Coach, Jerruh's last Superbowl convinced him the Team could lead themselves, winning with Barry has been one of his downfalls for the last 16 years but there are many more.
I totally agree. If you wait until the last minute to study for a final exam and make an "A", that could lead you into a false sense of security that you can approach all test that way because you were successful before using that tactic.