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I've got to address the Garrett hate...

Discussion in 'Jerry/Garrett/Rant Zone' started by myslamsareolder, May 18, 2014.

  1. cowboy_ron

    cowboy_ron You Can't Fix Stupid

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    It doesn't have anything to do with "hate"..just because some say there may be a better option doesn't automatically equate to hate for someone.....with JG, it could be that he tends to overthink sometimes which is not good in a sport that doesn't require Ivy league personnel....he may simply be better suited in a FO rather than on the field
  2. RS12

    RS12 Well-Known Member

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    I dont hate Garrett. I have just thought from the word go that the team would have been miles ahead with other head coaches. Simple enough. My point is that in the eyes of multitudes of posters if you criticize the team no matter what, you are a hater. Those would be the blind homers.
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  3. WPBCowboysFan

    WPBCowboysFan Well-Known Member

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    Some clues on who the rocket scientists are, they say things like:
    -2 back surgeries he's done
    -cant throw the deep ball anymore
    -We'll never win anything with him
    -He's overweight and outta shape
    -It'll be good when he's gone so we can get a real QB
    -He's a choke artist and cant win the elimination games, do or die games, win and you're in games, etc.


    And many of these rocket surgeons love to praise E-Lie
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  4. JoeyBoy718

    JoeyBoy718 Well-Known Member

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    Taking over a 1-7 team and finishing 5-11 and then going three straight seasons at 8-8 is not impressive. What you fail to mention is the team he took over had the same players who went 13-3 the year before. So the team obviously had talent. The 1-7 season was just a train wreck and there was a lot of blame to go around, but he didn't do much better when he took over. This isn't the old days. Coaches can take over 2-14 teams and go 12-4 the next year (see KC Chiefs and Indy Colts).

    There are things I do like about Garrett, but there are also things I don't like. But overall, what matters is results, and he hasn't shown results. I like how we haven't been afraid to cut ties with old players since Garrett got here. I also like our attention to improving the O-line. I like some of our draft picks (trading back for Frederick, Tyron, Martin, Lawrence) and I also don't like some of our draft picks (trading up for Claiborne, Escobar in the 2nd, drafting injured players). I don't like how he manages the clock and I don't like how he abandons the run when it works. I'm indifferent toward the RKG philosophy because I don't really understand what he's trying to do. He passes on guys who are character concerns but then gets guys like Melton coming off a bar fight and tries to keep Brent coming off manslaughter. Sometimes it seems like he's running the team, and sometimes it seems like Jerry's running the team. All in all, there is a lot I like and also a lot I don't like, and I think he needs to really put up or shut up this year.
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  5. TwoDeep3

    TwoDeep3 Well-Known Member

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    I understand your point. But your comments on Eli are the same as their comments on Romo. You can see that, right?
  6. WPBCowboysFan

    WPBCowboysFan Well-Known Member

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    Nope!

    Ive never elevated Romo to some fairy tale level like the E-Lie Lovers Club members do with E-Lie.
  7. visionary

    visionary Well-Known Member

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    That is not the only thing you confused in the OP
  8. jobberone

    jobberone Right turn Clyde Staff Member

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    And if you don't go conservative and you turn the ball over then you get nailed for that, too. Winning cures a host of problems.
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  9. myslamsareolder

    myslamsareolder Member

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    I spoke facts homie. Nothing to confuse. Nice sentenc
    Yup. People forget Carroll went 7-9 and 7-9 his first two years and probably would have had a similar third season if not for the surprising rise of Wilson. Does anybody care? Nope because they win now. If the Cowboys go 10-6 this year and win a playoff game everyone will shut up. Everyone needs winning now or somebody needs to be fired. They act like we've had a decade of losing seasons with Garrett at the helm. We haven't had one.
  10. WPBCowboysFan

    WPBCowboysFan Well-Known Member

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    Nor have we had any winning seasons with him at the helm. But we've had a plethora of excuses for that.
  11. PA Cowboy Fan

    PA Cowboy Fan Well-Known Member

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    And we still can't win it. Instead we lose a win and you're in game three straight years to each of our division rivals. I wonder what's in store for us this year?
  12. WPBCowboysFan

    WPBCowboysFan Well-Known Member

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    8-7 going into the final game?
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  13. Coy

    Coy Well-Known Member

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    What about this year? Are we still rebuilding?
  14. Coy

    Coy Well-Known Member

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    So you would take another 3 years of no playoffs before you'd fire him?
    That would be some kind of record for a HC in the NFL, 6 or 7 years with no playoffs until a HC is fired, I don't think that has ever happened, at least not in the last 25 years, I may be wrong but I doubt that.
  15. visionary

    visionary Well-Known Member

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    Anyone jones is "comfortable" with is not a good HC for this team

    Jones liked Garrett because he is spineless jellyfish who knows his place in the chain of command . Garrett is happy because he is making a ton of money at a job he has no realistic chance of getting anywhere else. The best part is that thus comes with no requirement to produce results and no real consequences because the media and the fans just place all the blame on Jerry.

    Jerry is the real HC of this team.

    Win win for Garrett
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  16. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    Nice OP. I agree with your position, obviously. Not a lot of serious debate to the contrary, anyway.

    Fans are tired of losing, and that colors their perspective. If the defense gets fixed, it'll be amazing how happy everybody will be with how muck Jason Garrett learned in the process. If it does not, it underscores what a bad game manager he is. There's no middle ground.
  17. WPBCowboysFan

    WPBCowboysFan Well-Known Member

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    [IMG]

    Somehow this guy has kept his job for years.
  18. itsaboat

    itsaboat Active Member

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    I'd like to see Garrett sign a 3-year contract. Dallas has allowed Garrett to churn the roster and build the kind of team he wants. Give him a chance to build the defense up and see what happens. After two seasons if there's no measurable progress, playoff appearances or whatever, then he doesn't get to the third year.
  19. Coy

    Coy Well-Known Member

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    He won the AFC North with an 11-5 record in his 3rd year, unlike Garrett.
    Like I said I bet there's never been a HC who kept his job for 6 or 7 years without getting to the playoffs (at least in the last 25 years or so), it amazes me that some around here would be willing to give hime that chance.
  20. Coy

    Coy Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for your honest answer, I don't agree with you because I just think he is a bad HC.
    Hope he proves us doubters wrong.
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