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Jack the Ripper mystery solved by top detective after 125 years

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  1. joseephuss

    joseephuss Well-Known Member

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    http://www.express.co.uk/news/weird...ystery-solved-by-top-detective-after-125-year


    Jack the Ripper mystery solved by top detective after 125 years

    THE Jack the Ripper mystery that has kept the world enthralled since the killer first struck on the streets of Victorian London has been blown apart on the 125th anniversary of the grisly crimes by a former murder squad detective.

    And the bad news for the countless millions of amateur sleuths who have spent years trying to identify the nation’s most notorious serial killer is that he never existed.

    He was just dreamed up by a drunken journalist called Thomas Bulling who wrote a forged letter to Scotland Yard in 1888 pretending to be “Jack” so he could obtain a scoop.

    More than 300 books and dozens of films and TV programmes have named in excess of 100 different men, often on the flimsiest of evidence, as the serial murderer who slashed the throats of five women who he then disembowelled, bringing terror to the gas lit streets of Whitechapel.

    The suspects have included everyone from Queen Victoria’s grandson the Duke of Clarence to Alice in Wonderland author Lewis Carroll.

    Some even said a Sioux Indian warrior called Black Elk, who toured Britain with Buffalo Bill’s Wild West Show in the 1880s, was the guilty man. Others believed child charity campaigner Dr Barnardo was “Jack”.

    But Trevor Marriott, a former murder squad detective with Bedfordshire police, has spent 11 years carrying out a detailed cold-case review of the killings, he has trawled Scotland Yard’s files and used modern-day police techniques backed up with state of the art forensic analysis.

    “The facts of this case have been totally distorted over the years,” said Mr Marriott.

    “The general public have been completely misled by any number of authors and publishers.

    “Jack is supposed to be responsible for five victims, but there were other similar murders before and after the ones attributed to him, both in this country and abroad in America and Germany.”
  2. AmberBeer

    AmberBeer Well-Known Member

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    Sounds like something an ESPN hack would do/does.
  3. BoysFan4ever

    BoysFan4ever Well-Known Member

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    Jack is still one scary dude after all this time.

    For the record I believe the same guy committed all those murders.

    We'll never know for sure though.
  4. bounce

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    Ha. "Solved."

    This case will never be "solved." The bottom line is, someone(s) was going around killing people - that's not made up, so saying the person never existed is ridiculous.
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  5. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Staff Member

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    And certainly it seems the main "Ripper" cases were related.
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  6. BoysFan4ever

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    Surely the ones in Whitechapel were. He just had a little more time with some & he disfigured their faces, etc.

    The last one found in her room was torn to pieces. There is a very famous picture taken of her & there was nothing left of her really. He was one sick pup.
  7. visionary

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    "the greatest accomplishment of the devil is to convince people he does not exist"

    not to go all biblical on y'all
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  8. BraveHeartFan

    BraveHeartFan We got a hat. I want a ring.

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    I think his point is, from reading the article, is that it wasn't a singular person who did all of them. That it was lots of similiar murders, done by various people, being credited to one serial killer.

    Now obviously I have no idea how they have determined that this letter the police received was from drunken newspaper writer, as I'm not a cop nor have I ever worked that case, but it would appear from the article that their main reason for focusing on the idea of one serial killer by the name of Jack was due to a letter written to the police. Apparently that letter has been proven to be fake (Again I don't know how, why, or if it really was) and that brought into serious question the validity of one person doing these things.

    I don't believe the mans point was that the murders didn't happen. That would be foolish because people were obviously murdered. I believe it's simply a case here where the guy is saying it wasn't some lone person out there doing these things.

    Also according to the article the claim that 'Jack' was taking organs at the scene was also proven to be false, which would also destroy some of the story/myth/whatever of this Jack The Ripper.
  9. BraveHeartFan

    BraveHeartFan We got a hat. I want a ring.

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    That's a very nice point...if someone was saying these murders didn't ever happen at all. Saying this was done by more than 1 evil person, rather than one, doesn't invalidate the idea of the devil in any way.

    Just my opinion anyway.
  10. visionary

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    no problem
  11. BoysFan4ever

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    The "Jack" letter was questioned a long time ago by many investigators. The one signed "from hell" is thought to be from the actual killer.

    I have never heard the theory about many killers ever. They all seem very similar & the work of one person.

    All the bodies were autopsied. Why now does this one guy come out & say that organs were not removed? That fact would have been discovered long ago if true. Many have studied this case for decades.

    I don't know about this guy but I'm sure The History Channel will give him his own special & we'll hear all these new theories.

    Jack is still grabbing headlines.The Zodiac killings are still unsolved as well.
  12. MichaelWinicki

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    I don't think anyone would be shocked to find out that "JTR" committed other murders both before and after the White Chapel crimes. But I do think those famous 4 or 5 at WC were connected.

    On an interesting side note... the baseball statistics guy Bill James, who penned a very good book on famous crime cases has been studying several axe-murders that took place across Midwest and East Coast in the early part of the 20th century. One of those being the infamous Villisca murders of 1912. http://www.villiscaiowa.com/index.php James has uncovered several similar crimes throughout that time period... with the potential tie-in that the perpetrator rode the rails to get from one area to another. Fascinating stuff.
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  13. Signals

    Signals Suspicious looking stranger

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    I think Jack the ripper was Dr. H. H. Holmes. Holmes was mysteriously missing from the streets of Chicago during the time of the JTR murders.
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  14. joseephuss

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    There are lots of guys in other parts of the word that have been linked in to being JTR. That time period seemed to have more than its fair share of serial killers. Probably more than are out there right now.

    Here is a link to murder cases that happened in Austin, TX 3 years before the killings in London.

    http://www.casebook.org/dissertations/dst-austin.html
  15. BoysFan4ever

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    There was a special not long ago & they pointed out some guy who worked on some freighter & was in various ports when similar Jack type murders took place.

    There is also a good book by Patricia Cornwell that names famed painter Walter Sickert as Jack. She goes into great detail to explain her theory.

    Another plausible one is a guy who worked at the morgue in Whitechapel where all the victims were taken. He knew the streets, hated prostitutes, was adept with a scalpel. He died from TB & strangely enough the murders stopped.

    There are many theories out there. Many suspects & we will never know.
  16. BoysFan4ever

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    The sad thing about Villisca is all those kids. I cannot imagine the evil involved to hack to death small kids.
  17. MichaelWinicki

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    Think of the parents who sent there kids on an overnight at that house... Geez you send you kids to the neighbors and this thing happens. Horrible and incredible at the same time.
  18. BoysFan4ever

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    You can tour that little house. It is quite chilling & there is still a creepy feeling there knowing what happened. I believe you can even stay overnite but I would not do that. The tour was enough for me.
  19. MichaelWinicki

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    I read that somewhere (that you could tour it).

    If I had a chance to tour it I would... morbid curiosity I guess.

    Another one of those "Who done it?" but I think Bill James is right that there was a connection between this and some other axe-murders throughout the country during that time period.

    It was such a heinous crime, I don't think it was anyone local to that area.
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  20. BoysFan4ever

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    The tour was interesting & the house has a definite creep factor. It's just a small farmhouse. The killer stayed upstairs in the attic till the family was home from church & in bed.

    There was actually a local crazy guy who went to trial but was acquitted if I remember right. The prevailing theory is that the father pushed some buttons of some powerful guy in town & it was a contract killing. But on record I do believe it is unsolved. It is heartbreaking. Those kids were little.

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