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Jag on Brady: 'He ain't all that'

Discussion in 'NFL Zone' started by Nors, Jan 13, 2008.

  1. Nors

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    Jag on Brady: 'He ain't all that'

    By Dan Wetzel, Yahoo! Sports
    January 12, 2008

    FOXBOROUGH, Mass. – Perhaps you were impressed with Tom Brady's record-setting performance in beating Jacksonville on Saturday.

    If so, you weren't Jaguars rookie safety Reggie Nelson.

    "He ain't all that … He's all right," Nelson said.

    Ah, Reggie, are you sure he ain't more than all that? Brady did, after all, set an NFL record by completing 92.9 percent of his passes (26 for 28 for 262 yards and three touchdowns) to lead New England to a 31-20 playoff victory.


    It was the near-perfect game for the quarterback of the perfect team.

    "It was a check down game," Nelson said, suggesting that most of Brady's completions were short and underneath the pass coverage. "Anybody can go 26-of-28 in a dump-down game."

    Down the hall, "he ain't all that" dumbfounded Randy Moss.

    "What?" Moss said. "It wasn't impressive? When you lose you're going to say things that (are) really inappropriate. You're talking about the MVP, that's Tom Brady.

    "I'm not even going to respond to that."

    Nelson's opinion might stem from the sheer frustration of having Brady carve up his Jags despite their almost perfect execution of the game plan.

    Jacksonville focused on shutting down the deep threat – especially Moss (just one reception) – and, as Nelson noted, make Brady check down, or throw to short, underneath patterns.

    It might have worked, too, if Brady hadn't completed nearly every throw.

    "It was a little disappointing he missed two," smiled coach Bill Belichick.

    And one of them was a drop by Wes Welker.

    That's what makes Brady not just the MVP of the league this season, but the pure championship winner of this generation. He has the Patriots at 17-0 and barreling toward their fourth Super Bowl title not because he always makes the flashiest plays – although he does that, too – but because he almost always makes the right one.

    "He doesn't force anything," said Jags safety Sammie Knight. "He's going to take what you give him. He's made a living throwing to backs and underneath."

    If the Jaguars were going to stop the long ball, Brady had no problem nickel and diming them with short, smart passes.

    "If you're taking two guys every play and putting them on Randy, then you leave a lot of guys one-on-one," Brady said.

    Brady almost sounded like Nelson by calling it "easy." But that's his normal way of deflecting praise onto his teammates. He may be the supermodel-dating playboy, but he loves shrugging it all off and going with the aw-shucks routine.

    "Those guys, when they are open like that, that's my job to hit them," Brady said. "They were open every time. It's easy when you have receivers that are open all the time and an offensive line that never lets anyone touch you."

    None of his teammates would let him get away with that. Each told of Nelson's comments reacted with a bit of anger "I can't say what I want to say," said wide receiver Donte Stallworth.

    Underneath passes or not, 26-of-28 is a record for a reason.

    "This is the NFL. If this was high school, yeah (it might not be 'all that')," Stallworth said.

    Brady had already conducted his postgame interview by the time Nelson spoke. His play said enough, though.

    The Pats had five scoring drives (with a missed field goal on a sixth). The team's other two offensive possessions were a one-play kneel down to finish the first half and an attempt to wind down the clock late in the fourth.

    Big play or not, they couldn't have operated much better with Brady serving as the game-plan buster, laying waste to Jaguars coach Jack Del Rio's defensive plot.

    "Unfortunately, Tom didn't slip on the way to work today," Del Rio said.

    Back in the Jags locker room, there wasn't much to say. The secondary that allowed a record performance had done exactly what they were told to do and still couldn't stop New England.

    So all four starters stood in front of their lockers, conveniently lined up in a row, and all four just shrugged at what had happened, although the other three were more gracious than Nelson.

    "He's good," Nelson finally conceded before packing his bag and heading for the offseason. "He's a good quarterback."

    Yeah, for an unbeaten MVP, Tom Brady's not too bad.
  2. Aikbach

    Aikbach Well-Known Member

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    Once again you show that you post on the wrong board.
  3. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Staff Member

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    Brady was amazing.

    I don't think anyone beats that team unless they are 3 quality corners deep, along with having safeties that can cover-- and I don't see anyone out there that has that type of defense.
  4. CowboyWay

    CowboyWay If Coach would have put me in, we'd a won State

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    I disagree. I think the way to beat them is to put your best corner on Welker. Put your 3rd best corner on Moss, along with safety help. And by safety help I mean....he never goes anywhere Moss doesn't go. Double cover him when he goes to the bathroom.

    Then put your 2nd best corner on Donte.

    Welker is the key to that offese, not Moss. Moss is the home run threat.

    I'd like to see someone try it and see if it works.
  5. Wrangler87

    Wrangler87 Well-Known Member

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    The shorter the passes fly, the eisier they are to complete. I could complete 75% of my passes if I was constantly throwing it three or four yards in the air. See Donovan McNabb.
  6. superpunk

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    Nelson's comments are out of place, but correct. The Pats entire offense is geared around screens, and getting a receiver directly in front of Tom Brady, wide open. The only reason his dowfield game has improved is the new 81.

    Nelson's comments would have been better received if he'd have had the balls to put them out there BEFORE the game.
  7. tyke1doe

    tyke1doe Well-Known Member

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    Isn't this the "NFL Zone" of the Cowboys forum?

    I thought we were allowed to post non-Cowboys-related news, topics in here?
  8. tyke1doe

    tyke1doe Well-Known Member

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    Wow. The deniers are on fire today aren't they.

    I guess Tony Romo aint all that either - Ms. Simpson's opinion notwithstanding. ;)
  9. superpunk

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    it's not denial. Just because the Pats dink and dunk well, doesn't mean we should all be blown away with Tom Brady. The difference this year is Wes Welker's ability after the catch, and Moss's ability to adjust to Brady's mediocre deep throwing. Watch their offense and see how much of it is geared towards getting a receiver right in front of Brady for an easy completion. You might be surprised, or you might not, I don't care. But Nelson's comments were not outrageous - just ill-timed.
  10. tyke1doe

    tyke1doe Well-Known Member

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    So all the football coaches and minds can't figure out how to beat the Pats, but you can.

    Have you thrown your name in the hat for one of the vacant coaching jobs? ;)
  11. tyke1doe

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    Uh, they dink and dunk because coverage dictates that they do. They also throw the ball long when coverage dictates - such as when Moss catches the long pass against the Giants and Stallworth against the Jags.

    And where was Welker and Moss when Brady was winning three Super Bowls?

    Where was Moss yesterday?

    Brady is that good.

    You can argue all you'd like about how he benefits from great receivers (Welker wasn't so great in Miami and Moss didn't do anything in Oakland), but the guy is practically flawless.

    The best quarterback in the game - bar none.
  12. jimmy40

    jimmy40 Well-Known Member

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    Brady sucks, the Pat's have just gotten lucky 17 times in a row. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

    This forum is full of guys that can do what Brady does, if you don't believe me just ask them.
  13. superpunk

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    Sorry, you're wrong. He manages the game well, but he has plenty of flaws that are masked by his great playmakers. Your opinion of Welker in Miami lets me know how much I should respect your opinion.

    Anyhow - Boys on. Game on!
  14. tyke1doe

    tyke1doe Well-Known Member

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    :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2:
  15. tyke1doe

    tyke1doe Well-Known Member

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    And you saying Brady isn't that great - despite the fact he won three Super Bowl with average receivers - tells me how much I should respect yours. ;)
  16. tyke1doe

    tyke1doe Well-Known Member

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    You wanna tell me again about how Brady aint all that because he simply dinks and dunks.

    Brady is still playing. Peyton Manning and Tony "The Next Brady" Romo will be watching the Championship round at home.
  17. InmanRoshi

    InmanRoshi Zone Scribe

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    Sorry Reggie Nelson ... when you break every single season QB record known to man and lead the NFL's all time scoring offense and very likely will have as many Superbowl Rings on your hand after this season as Joe freakin Montana and you're just 30 years old .... that qualifies as being 'all that". If that's not "all that', who is?
  18. SultanOfSix

    SultanOfSix Star Power

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    Unbelievable. It's always the same people posting and defending the Pats and then pretending they're not Pats fans.

    Must be that lack of integrity thing that the NFL takes with the Pats rubbing off on their fans.
  19. khiladi

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    Exactly. And if you notice, when Welker has a CB playing on him, he isn't that effective. His bread-and-butter is the short passes over the middle, when LBs are dropping back to keep the intermediate zones in check.
  20. ThreeSportStar80

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    Well one this is for sure Dallas won't be the team to beat them...:mad:

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