JaMarcus Russell Makes History

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  1. Hostile

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    Around the League: Russell makes history

    By Adam Schefter | NFL Network

    As they had hoped, the Oakland Raiders and quarterback JaMarcus Russell made history together. Unfortunately for both sides, it is not the type that either wanted.

    Russell’s holdout reached 34 days on Wednesday –- one more than former No. 1 overall pick Orlando Pace’s holdout reached with the St. Louis Rams in 1997.

    Signing dates of No. 1 picks since 1977
    2006...Mario Williams...April 28
    2005...Alex Smith...July 26
    2004...Eli Manning...July 29
    2003...Carson Palmer...April 25
    2002...David Carr...April 20
    2001...Michael Vick...May 9
    2000...Courtney Brown...May 10
    1999...Tim Couch...April 17
    1998...Peyton Manning...July 28
    1997...Orlando Pace...Aug. 16
    1996...Keyshawn Johnson...Aug. 6
    1995...Ki-Jana Carter...July 19
    1994...Dan Wilkinson...May 5
    1993...Drew Bledsoe...July 6
    1992...Steve Emtman...April 26
    1991...Russell Maryland...April 22
    1990...Jeff George...July 12
    1989...Troy Aikman...April 26
    1988...Aundray Bruce...April 6
    1987...Vinny Testaverde...April 3
    1986...Bo Jackson...Never signed
    1985...Bruce Smith...Feb. 28
    1984...Irving Fryar...April 11
    1983...John Elway...May 2
    1982...Kenneth Sims...June 9
    1981...George Rogers...June 18
    1980...Billy Sims...June 11
    1979...Tom Cousineau...Never signed
    1978...Earl Campbell...April 28
    1977...Ricky Bell...May 3

    Now, if and when he signs with the Raiders, Russell’s holdout will mark the longest one in the common draft era by a No. 1 overall pick that eventually signed with the team that drafted him.

    If the Raiders fail to sign Russell, they would hardly be the first franchise not to wrap up the No. 1 overall pick.

    In 1986, Tampa Bay drafted Auburn running back Bo Jackson No. 1 overall. Rather than sign a five-year offer with the Buccaneers, Jackson opted to play baseball for the Kansas City Royals. Jackson went back into the draft and, in 1987, was selected in the seventh round –- by Russell’s Raiders.

    In 1979, Buffalo drafted Ohio State linebacker Tom Cousineau with the No. 1 overall pick, but he opted for Montreal in the Canadian Football League. When Cousineau returned to the NFL, Buffalo traded the linebacker’s rights to Cleveland in 1983 for the 14th overall first-round pick that netted the Bills Hall-of-Fame quarterback Jim Kelly.

    Of course, before he signed with Buffalo, Kelly pulled a sort-of Cousineau. He opted to play in the USFL before returning to Buffalo, where he made his NFL name.

    Now the Raiders aren’t even concerned with when Russell will make his name. For now, they just want to see it on the dotted line.


    Preseason games do not count, but they do matter. And what matters most in New York is that quarterback Eli Manning finally has looked like the No. 1 overall pick the Giants acquired from San Diego.

    Behind a strong running game and offensive line -– and without Tiki Barber pointing it out -– the much-scrutinized Manning has had a preseason inspiring large hopes within the organization.

    Heading into Thursday night’s preseason finale at New England, Manning has completed 30-of-43 passes for 287 yards, three touchdowns, no interceptions and a 111.3 quarterback rating.

    These are the type of numbers the Giants hoped they would be getting on a consistent basis. Maybe now, with the help of Giants quarterbacks coach Chris Palmer and offensive coordinator Kevin Gilbride, Manning is going to make the kind of strides his brother Peyton once did.

    So far, the indications are positive.


    As Atlanta prepares to scour the waiver wire for another quarterback, it’s possible the Falcons next quarterback could be on the division-rival Buccaneers roster.

    Tampa Bay is well aware of Atlanta’s intentions, too. But it is trying to figure out what is best for its franchise.

    Buccaneers quarterbacks Jeff Garcia, Bruce Gradkowski and Luke McCown have roster spots all but locked up. Chris Simms does not.

    Simms would be the type of quarterback that would greatly appeal to Atlanta -– if he were a free agent, which Tampa Bay could decide to make him this weekend.

    Tampa’s roster decisions this weekend could have a lot to do with what other players it wants to keep at other positions. But Simms will get one more chance Thursday night to prove he is worth keeping. It will be an extended look.

    Tampa Bay is planning to play Simms at least a quarter in the preseason finale against the Houston Texans. Simms needs to give the Buccaneers –- or maybe the Falcons –- a reason to believe. This will be his chance.


    Do the math. Thirty-two NFL teams each will cut 22 players this weekend, meaning over 700 players suddenly will be left unemployed.

    Few of the 700-plus players will be household names. Yet behind each cut is a man who lost his job, with a story to tell. One unfolded this week, before the final cuts even occurred.

    San Diego cut tight end T.J. Cottrell, who happens to be the son of Chargers defensive coordinator Ted Cottrell.

    Now, it’s not as if Ted Cottrell were unfamiliar with this scenario. In 2004, when the senior Cottrell was the Vikings' defensive coordinator, Minnesota cut his son that summer as well.

    Still, it never can be easy for a father to see his son lose his job. It has to be even harder when they work for the same company. It is just one story from this past week.

    There will be over 700 more this weekend.


    After battling a chronic foot injury that sidelined him all summer, Bengals Pro Bowl offensive tackle Willie Anderson was back at practice Wednesday for the first time since last season.

    Wireimage.comBengals offensive lineman Willie Anderson is entering his 12th season with the team.

    Earlier in the day, Anderson took the first necessary step to returning to practice and to game action. He passed his physical, which there were some questions about whether he could do.

    Now, Bengals coach Marvin Lewis would like to play Anderson in Friday night’s preseason finale against the Indianapolis Colts, and he intends to get his right tackle on the field for the Monday night opener at home against the Baltimore Ravens.

    Cincinnati needs him. Its left tackle, Levi Jones, has battled a nagging knee injury throughout camp and its right tackle has been a question mark. In the past, there always had been few questions about Anderson.

    He has started 112 consecutive games, been voted to each of the past four Pro Bowls and has been a fixture in Cincinnati’s line, protecting quarterback Carson Palmer. After seeing Anderson back in his familiar spot Wednesday, there is a feeling of optimism that the offensive tackle will be there for the opener.
  2. McCordsville Cowboy

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    Jamarcus Russell is a fat Akili Smith with an Arm..
  3. dogunwo

    dogunwo Waves that make you sea-sick Zone Supporter

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    means nothing coming from you
  4. superpunk

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    Manning really is tearing it up. Not a good thing to see, but he looks sharp.

    His problem has been staying sharp against any but the worst defenses, but I've never seen him look this good. Maybe the light is finally coming on, which I would hate, because I've maintained he'll never be more than the average QB he is now.
  5. Sam I Am

    Sam I Am Unfriendly and Aloof!

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    For a while I alway thought he was just Mr. Inconsistent, but I think I was wrong in that assessment. I think it pretty much depends on how his team is playing. In other words, he isn't a player that can make the difference when things arn't going well. He is just a player that has the ability to play well if his team is playing well. I liken him to Jeff Garcia. A player with good football skills, but not a great football player.
  6. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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    If Russell plans on holding out for the year and re-entering the draft he will end up losing a lot of money. I don't see him going in the 1st rd next season after sitting out a year. I think he will end up getting picked up later and that will cost him compared to what he would have gotten this year.
  7. Hostile

    Hostile The Duke

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    I honestly don't understand why their deal isn't done. It's approaching ridiculous.
  8. McCordsville Cowboy

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    Thanks for the time...
  9. big dog cowboy

    big dog cowboy THE BIG DOG Staff Member

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    A very good friend of mine is a Raider fan. I told him a week before the draft a deal should be signed or they should trade the pick. It was so easy to see this coming. At some point (if it hasn't already been reached) the Raiders offer has to decline. This season is becoming more and more lost for them and Russell every day.
  10. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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    I agree and this time around I agree with Davis and the Raiders. Russell may want 30 mill guaranteed but the Raiders are stupid if they do. I know some will say well look what Williams or some other rookie got last year well that was Houston stupidity no need for the Raiders to go down the same stupid road just because someone else did
  11. Idgit

    Idgit That sounds really boring Staff Member

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    I was going to post this same thought. At *best* he'd be a late 1 next year, given the time off and the fact that he's demonstrated he can be tough to sign. The Raiders already have to have given up on the idea of having him play significant time this year, so there's no more downside for them to sit and wait. Russell has *no* leverage, and his holdout is idiotic at this point.

    EDIT: I guess they could trade the pick to a team like Atlanta, but the odds of that happening are pretty slim, too.
  12. Doomsday101

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    True and add to that Culpepper has been doing a good job in pre-season for the Raiders. His style of play may fit in well with Oakland.
  13. 5Stars

    5Stars Here comes the Sun...

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    Anyone know who his agent is and what the Raiders are offering?
  14. CrazyCowboy

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  15. TunaFan33

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    I have to (painfully) agree with you. If anything-1) Tiki "Cancer" Barber is finally out of that locker room-who cares if he was 90% of that offense? He was one of the main reasons why they had ill-chemistry most of last season. There were times late in the year where Eli was leading good-looking drives, only for them to be short-circuited by half*** blocks by Tiki. And 2) After witnessing his brother's Super Bowl run last year, I feel this has really lit a fire under his arse.

    And remember too-Amani Toomer is their best player on O(not Plax, Shockey, or even Tiki-he's back at full strength now-why Toomer gets very little credit for the 100s of clutch catches he makes is mystifying. His absense in the latter half of the year was sorely missed.
  16. percyhoward

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    The real bad sign is that he's not throwing anything deep, because the Giants run offense is leading the league in preseason. Their pass offense is 31st.
  17. Achozen

    Achozen Sounds From The Lair

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    Because he's black?

  18. zrinkill

    zrinkill Diamond surrounded by trash

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    This thread is gonna make BlackJackMurphy cry.
  19. McCordsville Cowboy

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    Okay you got me.... I have a better example

  20. 5Stars

    5Stars Here comes the Sun...

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    McCordsville Cowboy is an eagle troll...

    Haven't you seen him and Facin' Fools (another eagle fan) act like they hate each other, yet they make snide remarks about the Cowboys and post other stupid stuff just to get a woody?


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