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Jason Hatcher Is Considered A Richard Seymour Type Player...

Discussion in 'Draft Day Zone' started by CaptainAmerica, Apr 29, 2006.

  1. CaptainAmerica

    CaptainAmerica Active Member

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    ...If you don't want a potential Richard Seymour, I'm sorry you are disappointed.

    But, he wasn't a reach in the 3rd round. A lot of teams thought very highly of him. Check out this scouting report on him...

    Jason Hatcher, DE
    Grambling State


    Hatcher is a vastly underrated talent in the mold of New England Patriots standout Richard Seymour. Like Seymour, Hatcher might be better suited for an end position in a 3-4 scheme, or he could bulk up and shift inside to tackle in a 4-3 alignment. The two-year starter shuttled between offense and defense for several games during the 2003 season before settling in at weakside defensive tackle as a junior.

    The 2005 season saw Hatcher earn national honors. He was an All-America and All-Southwest Region selection, totaling a career-high 71 tackles (49 solos). He ranked seventh in the nation with 11 quarterback sacks and fourth with 21.5 stops for losses. He totaled 17 pressures with two fumble recoveries and a forced fumble. He also blocked a kick.

    Hatcher appeared in 28 games, earning 17 starts for the Tigers. He recorded 117 tackles (65 solos) with 17 sacks for minus-136 yards and 33.5 stops for losses of 173 yards. He registered 24 quarterback pressures and blocked three kicks. He recovered two fumbles, caused another and deflected three passes.


    Positives: Has a developing frame with long limbs, good strength, big bubble, wide waist and solid upper body muscle development...Can add more bulk to his frame with no drop-off in quickness...Has a quick short area burst to collapse the pocket and give chase in attempts to flush the quarterback out...Uses his hands with force to separate...Has the strength to stack and control at the line of scrimmage...Quick enough to stand up or line up in a two-point stance...Has patience while containing to shut down the reverse...When he stays low in his pads, he is very tough on tight ends and can hold his own vs. tackles in attempts to shed...Can jolt and stun ball carriers on impact as a hitter... Has an effective spin move to slip off the outside shoulder of tackles...Has very good leaping ability and times his jumps to deflect passes or block kicks at the line of scrimmage.

    Negatives...Lacks loose hips, but shows good straight-line speed to close...Needs to stay lower in his pads, because when he gets high in his stance, he struggles to shed and can be neutralized by a physical double team...Shows good hand usage, but sometimes sticks to blockers too long...Has only adequate ability to diagnose the play, but is quick to attack once he locates the ball...When he comes off the ball at a high pad level, he leaves his chest too exposed to prevent the blocker from locking on...Can lose leverage because of his adequate knee bend and hip snap.

    Hatcher is a tall athlete with long limbs, good bubble, adequate upper body muscle development and a frame that can carry at least another 15-20 pounds of bulk with no loss in quickness. He shows good balance and acceleration, coming off the snap with the suddenness needed to gain advantage. He is capable of standing up or playing in a two-point stance and uses his hands effectively to gain advantage coming off the snap.

    Hatcher shows the speed to explode into the backfield, but appears a little stiff in his hips when trying to slide down the line. He can get by blockers quickly when he uses his hands to generate rip and swim moves, but when he gets too high in his stance, he struggles to disengage. He is effective at recognizing blocking schemes and plays as they develop, showing the patience needed while containing to shut down the reverse.

    Hatcher is strong at the point of attack and can hold his own in one-on-one confrontations, but can get into trouble when he raises his pads and fails to knee bend. He has the functional strength to defeat blocks, but is not a two-gap type that can easily split double teams. He has good hand usage to separate, but will stick to blockers too long at times. He has the quick first step and strength to handle tight ends and hold his own vs. tackles. When working in-line, he demonstrates the hand jolt to discard blockers and the strength to shed, but only when he uses his hands to rip through holds.

    Hatcher is best when playing off the line. He lacks loose hips and does not generate the sustained burst to be effective dropping off into the second level. He moves well through traffic, but needs to do a better job of taking angles to the ball when operating in space. He can jolt and stun a ball carrier on impact, but must improve his hip snap and roll to put more pop behind his tackles. He will generally wrap tackle, but will get a little careless with his arms and let a few runners get away.

    As a pass rusher, Hatcher has a natural feel and good strength to collapse the pocket. He has the ability to dip when turning the corner, demonstrating a better spin move when coming off the edge than when working in-line. He closes flat down the line and flashes enough burst to flush out quarterbacks. He has the backside speed to run down passers and shows good urgency in his chase and attack.

    Hatcher has only two good seasons of college football under his belt and will need time to develop. He is an effective edge rusher who needs to stays lower in his pads. He must improve his lateral range and while he shows good effort, he does not have the technique to consistently split double teams. In a 3-4 system, he could be an effective end, if lined up on the weak side. He might be better suited for tackle in a 4-3 alignment due to a lack of loose hips, but will have to bulk up if shifting to an interior position at the next level.


    Campus: 4.86 in the 40-yard dash...390-pound bench press...500-pound squat...326-pound power clean...33.5-inch vertical jump...33 ½-inch arm length...10-inch hands.

    Combine: 4.82-second 40-yard dash. ... 28 reps at 225 pounds. ... 35 1/2-inch vertical jump. ... 9'5" broad jump.


    Emerged as a blue chip prospect during his senior year...His 11 quarterback sacks ranked seventh in the NCAA Division 1-AA ranks in 2005...Finished fourth in the nation with a career-high 21.5 stops behind the line of scrimmage as a senior.
  2. Zimmy Lives

    Zimmy Lives Well-Known Member

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    But, but, but...He can't play safety or offensive tackle!!! :rolleyes:
  3. JBell523

    JBell523 That's my Quarterback

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    I saw another one that compared him to Steelers DE Aaron Smith...

    Being compared to two pro bowl DE's aint too shabby..
  4. Natedawg44

    Natedawg44 Active Member

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    And thus the hype begins
  5. Eddie

    Eddie Well-Known Member

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    Compare him to who ever you want ... makes no difference.

    We drafted another backup with our 3rd rounder.

    Kinda reminds me of the 1995-2003 drafts where we drafted for backup players.

    Now I know why we haven't won a playoff game in 9 years.
  6. morasp

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    Playing too high was the negative on the NFL web page but that should be coachable. Sounds like a good prospect. This years draft seems to have more than the usual share of shady characters and it looks like we've stayed away from those again. All the comments I've read about our picks include hard working and high energy.
  7. Cochese

    Cochese Benched

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    Amen. This was a rediculously bad pick. What was last years draft for? Lets reinforce the deepest positions on the squad. It is mind blowing.

    VTEXPRESS New Member

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    That's why they signed Coleman and Fabini. So they Could take the best Players on their board.
  9. Gaede

    Gaede Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, I don't like the pick. I might like the player, but we didn't paticularly need him

    He's a backup DE who might get some rotation time in three years.
  10. Portland Fanatic

    Portland Fanatic Active Member

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    We now have Spears, Canty, Ellis, Ratliff, Coleman, and now Hatcher....who goes???

    That's 6 DE's!

    Maybe we are switching to the new 6-4-1 defense :rolleyes:
  11. big dog cowboy

    big dog cowboy THE BIG DOG Staff Member

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    Ireland and JJ made it clear we are drafting for the future and draft BPA.
  12. DLCassidy

    DLCassidy Active Member

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    Comparing a guy rated as a late rounder to a former top ten pick and best DT in football is just stupid. If anyone seriously thought this guy was comparable in any way shape or form to Seymour, do you think he lasts over 90 picks? He's a sleeper with potential, that's it.
  13. Eddie

    Eddie Well-Known Member

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    Made my day. Lousy draft, but that was funny. :bow:

  14. canters

    canters Well-Known Member

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    He not be a starter on the depth chart, but I bet he gets lots of action in relief of Canty and Spears.
  15. JohnsKey19

    JohnsKey19 Well-Known Member

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    I think they're tired of waiting on Coleman. Two offseasons of hype and praise but hasn't really impressed during the regular season. Canty will take over as the starter, and they hope Hatcher can be a decent backup, making Coleman expendable.

    Canty, Spears, Ellis, Ratliff and Hatcher
  16. CrazyCowboy

    CrazyCowboy Well-Known Member

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    I am starting to like this pick.......now who says we had a bad first day?
  17. AmarilloCowboyFan

    AmarilloCowboyFan Well-Known Member

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    I don't mind this pick too much but being compared to someone doesn't mean they are that person. I'm sure Kavika and Shante were compared to good players too.
  18. BIGDen

    BIGDen Dr. Freakasaurus

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    At first, this pick was a head-scratcher. After reading about him, I'm less disappointed. The guy is 6'6", 280+ lbs, runs the 40 in the 4.8s, and is strong. Those numbers alone are good enough to get you drafted. Now add in the fact that he had 11 sacks and quite a few tackles for a loss and you've got a productive football player with outstanding measurables. He also is considered "raw", yet has produced quite well already on the field. Of course, we all would've been happier if we got him in the 5th and he seemed like a "steal", but there's no denying that he appears to be a very impressive prospect with a great deal of upside. I'm not trying to spin this selection, but compare this to a pick like Shante Carver who was small, slow, didn't appear to have much potential to improve, and we grab him in the first! THAT was a bad pick - a real reach. Most Giants fans were not that excited to get Umenyiora a few years ago, but players with a great deal of upside can develop. If Hatcher lives up to half of his potential he should be a solid pick.
  19. speedkilz88

    speedkilz88 Well-Known Member

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    Mike Mayock compared him to Chris Canty.
  20. BlueStar II

    BlueStar II New Member

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    I realize he has "lots" of upside/potential, but... I just wish we had picked him sometime today, instead of yesterday though

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