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Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by RS12, Jun 17, 2013.

  1. RS12

    RS12 Well-Known Member

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    Daniel Jeremiah ‏@MoveTheSticks 2m
    I'd take UCLA OLB Anthony Barr over any of the edge rushers in this past draft but Jadeveon Clowney is on another planet.
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    Daniel Jeremiah ‏@MoveTheSticks 34m
    backside burst on runs away...WOW
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    Daniel Jeremiah ‏@MoveTheSticks 37m
    Studying UCLA OLB Anthony Barr...Explosive blitzer but still developing as a pure pass rusher. Unlimited potential.
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    Three big time pro prospects ar UCLA now Barr, Hundley, and Fila
  2. ABQCOWBOY

    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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    Barr has done some nice things after being switched from O to D but the problem, at least for us, is that Barr is on like 245/250 lbs. He's a LB and we really don't need a LB. We need DE or DT. He's going to be a nice player for somebody but I don't think he fits for us unless he manages to get a lot bigger and starts playing with his hand in the dirt. He's got decent size at 6'4" and he's angular so he can put some weight on, looks like, but his ability to anchor is not great. He would have to get a whole lot stronger and learn how to play with much, much better technique against the run.

    I think he's a 34 pass rushing OLB. JMO
  3. Chris in Arizona

    Chris in Arizona I am Death

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    I think he can fill a Von Miller type role for a 4-3 team (he's bigger than Von). He can play 4-3 SAM on run downs and move to DE on obvious passing downs. He's the kind of player you find a spot for. He's best suited for 3-4 OLB like you said but I think he'd have no problem being effective in a 4-3 defense.
  4. ABQCOWBOY

    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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    I think he could also but I don't see us using a 1st round pick on another LB and I'm certain that's what he will be if he has another year like he did last year.

    A 34 team will snatch this guy up quick and I think that's going to be his best fit. Weakside OLB in a 34.
  5. Chris in Arizona

    Chris in Arizona I am Death

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    That's the thing you're not just drafting a linebacker. He's pretty much a DE. He's an everydown player. Someone like him allows you to start a player like Tyrone Crawford at LDE and then get in a better pass rusher on longer distance downs. Better than a Bruce Irvin since his skillset allows him to stay on the field, playing SAM on downs he's not on the edge. Long term, he can just move to RDE when Ware calls it a career, assuming he bulked up a little over his first few years in the NFL (happens all the time).

    Hopefully, we're drafting nowhere near where Anthony Barr will go though (top 15 is my guess).
  6. ABQCOWBOY

    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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    No. I've watched him and he is not a 43 DE. Not in my opinion. IF we took him, I think he would have to be a LB and I just don't see it.
  7. Chris in Arizona

    Chris in Arizona I am Death

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    He's an edge rusher. A 3-4 OLB is basically a 4-3 RDE.

    Again, see Von Miller. 30 sacks in 2 years. No reason Barr can't fit that exact same role in a 4-3 scheme.

    Just my opinion. I know previous leadership hasn't always allowed me to post my opinion but I'm okay if we just don't agree on this.
  8. ABQCOWBOY

    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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    No, it is not, especially a WOLB in a 34. It depends entirely on the 43 scheme but more then that, it's a run anchor thing. Doesn't really matter I suppose. I don't see it happening but I guess anything is possible.

    I have seen Von Miller since before he was in the NFL and that really has very little to do with the point I am trying to make.

    You have Carter and you have Lee, both coming up on contract years. In this scheme, the Strong Side OLB is not a very important piece. Big contract guys are not what we will likely be looking for to fill that spot. I don't see us drafting a LB in the 1st round so that means it's going to have to be a DE. If it's a DE, it's possible that it might be a guy who can rush the QB but I doubt it will be a guy who can not anchor against the run on the DL.

    I guess we'll see. I would love to have this guy but I don't believe we will invest a #1 in a guy who is probably going to start as a LB.
  9. jcollins28

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    Not sure where Barr will end up come draft time. I'm going to enjoy watching him work towards a Pac-12 title this year though! UCLA is actually stacked with linebackers. One could argue that UCLA has the best group of linebackers in the country. 8clap, Beat SC!
  10. Chris in Arizona

    Chris in Arizona I am Death

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    Boooooooo.

    but yes, I like your defense this year. You lost a lot from the Secondary but you recruited really well there and you get Dietrich Riley back.

    Too bad Vanderdoes isn't eligible to help you guys this year, your D would be even scarier.
  11. Cowboy Brian

    Cowboy Brian Romo 2 Austin

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    Don't know anything about him but when things like this leak this early it rarely endsup with the playing coming to the team. Atleast I can't recall any times that it did.
  12. jobberone

    jobberone Ginsu Wolverine Minion Staff Member

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    Man, you people are hard core. :) No wonder I can't stay in front of the curve with you guys at it all year. I think I'll just retire.
  13. xwalker

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    Seattle's defense is similar to Kiffin's. They drafted Bruce Irvin at #15 in 2012. Barr is bigger than Irvin.
  14. RS12

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  15. AsthmaField

    AsthmaField Outta bounds

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    Dallas won't draft a LB with their #1 pick in next year's draft. They just won't. The only way they'd draft Barr in the first is if he was going to play DE. Like Chris said, I think Barr could play DE although he'd probably have to put on some size. Just like Ware and Spencer went from being 34 OLB's to 43 DE's, Barr would become a DE for us. Edge rushers play at DE in a 43.

    So, if the team thought he wasn't big enough to play DE, then there is no way they'd take him in round 1 to play OLB. Like ABQ said, we have Carter and Lee at LB and the SOLB position isn't enough of an impact position to warrant using a first round pick to fill.

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