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Jerry has Garrett's back, so he says

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by jobberone, Jul 20, 2013.

  1. Clove

    Clove Shrinkage

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    you lose and see what happens.
  2. superpunk

    superpunk Benched

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    It's a bit of a tautology. Yeah it's bad that we've had six head coaches and no continuity. But we've had six head coaches and no continuity because they've been bad head coaches outside of Parcells. You can't just stick with something that's going nowhere (or in the wrong direction) in the name of continuity forever.
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  3. KJJ

    KJJ You Have an Axe to Grind

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    Let's say the Cowboys go 8-8 again and miss the playoffs in 2013 how much longer would you want to stick with Garrett before making a coaching change?
  4. Verdict

    Verdict Well-Known Member

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    I don't think that the record tells you that much information. How well did the team perform? How hard did they play? What was the injury situation? How well did our competition perform? Were any of the games decided by poor officiating? There are too many other factors that you should take into account rather than just looking at the record in a vacuum.
  5. KJJ

    KJJ You Have an Axe to Grind

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    At some point you have to look at the record and see improvement there or a change has to be made. The team hasn't performed well under Garrett. Teams such as Seattle and Washington are getting better while the Cowboys continue spinning their wheels in mediocrity. The Cowboys have been a very inconsistent team and Garrett has cost the Cowboys several games with poor game management. The wins have to start coming this year and the team has to make the playoffs or this mediocrity we keep seeing every season is eventually going to keep fans from filling the stadium.

    If you listen to some here they act like they'll be fine watching a 500 team every year as long as we have stability at HC. :mad: If you don't start seeing the wins after 3 full seasons with a HC you have to make a change. Jerry may stick with Garrett even if the team continues to be mediocre and miss the playoffs because he may feel the popularity of the Cowboys will keep the fans interested regardless how the team is playing.
  6. Verdict

    Verdict Well-Known Member

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    I would like to see improvement this year but the team could improve and we still might not see an improvement in our record. For instance if we ended up with a top 5 smothering defense but Romo was out half of the year with injuries and we finished 7 and 9 (but we were blowing teams out during the games that Romo was healthy and played) would you still be calling for Garrett's head? That wouldn't be on Garrett. That is just simple misfortune..

    Conversely, we could get to 10 or 11 wins, in spite of several stupid bone headed decisions and mismanagement of the team by Garrett, and a coaching change still might well be warranted. The record isn't nearly as important as how you got there. If you follow your logic, Jimmy Johnson and Tom Landry wouldn't have ever won a super bowl with the Dallas Cowboys.
  7. tantrix1969

    tantrix1969 Well-Known Member

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    Jimmy's 3rd year we went 11-5 and made playoffs...
  8. ethiostar

    ethiostar Well-Known Member

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    I don't foresee this being Garrett's last season unless he completely loses control of the team.
  9. KJJ

    KJJ You Have an Axe to Grind

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    A coach puts together a roster and has to make do with what they have regardless of injuries. Injuries happen every year to every team and after 3 years with a HC you have to start seeing wins and the playoffs or a coaching change has to be made. You can't keep putting up 500 records every season claiming progress is being made and that the current 500 record is better than the previous two. The fans and the media are simply not going to buy into that after 3 years. If the Cowboys ended up in 2013 with a top 5 smothering defense but finished 7-9 due to Romo being out half the season but the team was blowing teams out during the games he was healthy in I would still be calling for Garrett's head because he went 5-3 in 2010 as the interim HC with an aging backup QB and a defense that gave up a franchise record number of points.

    I'll be judging Garrett off his 3 seasons not one year. You can't keep going 500 every year then have a losing season and use injuries and a lockout as an excuse. If the Cowboys have a smothering top 5 defense in 2013 that can force some turnovers and a running game they've put a lot of work into improving this offseason they can win games with Orton managing them. Teams have won championships with a smothering defense, running game and a bus driver for a QB. If a 1-7 team like the Cowboys had at the halfway point of the 2010 season can turn it around and go 5-3 with an aging backup QB and a piss poor defense that was getting shredded there's no doubt in my mind the 2013 team which is more talented can do better than 7-9 without Romo if they have a top 5 smothering defense and a running game.
  10. 5Stars

    5Stars Here comes the Sun...

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    OMG! I honestly don't know what to say here!

    lol
  11. KJJ

    KJJ You Have an Axe to Grind

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    Do what you always do make something up. LOL
  12. Hostile

    Hostile Peace Zone Supporter

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    I told a friend here a while back that Garrett's job is not in jeopardy. He said there is no way I can know that.

    His job is not in jeopardy. Put whatever weight you want to on that. I am 100% comfortable making that statement, and I was before Jerry's comments in the opening PC.
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  13. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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    I don't know about that. I just hope this team can win and make a run in post season so that we don't have to find out what Jerry may have done.
  14. FuzzyLumpkins

    FuzzyLumpkins The Boognish

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    JJT article. Did not read. I can tell from the title it's another lazy, uninspired piece.
  15. Hostile

    Hostile Peace Zone Supporter

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    They can. Will they has yet to be determined.

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