News: JJT: Carter says he's ready for QB competition

Discussion in 'News Zone' started by ravidubey, May 15, 2004.

  1. ravidubey

    ravidubey Active Member

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    Stop the BS. Carter was given the job to justify Jones having selected him in the 2nd round, not for his ability. It means less than nothing to win by default. The one guy who would have beaten him easily was Tony Banks, and he was cut for no legitimate football reason other than to sate Jerry Jones' ego and gambling instinct.

    IN FOUR YEARS Clint Stoerner, Anthony Wright, and Chad Hutchinson are the only competition QC has faced (!!!), and AW was told to hit the road also for no legitimate football reason.
  2. big dog cowboy

    big dog cowboy THE BIG DOG Staff Member

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    Man wouldn't that be sweet? I am getting tired of this revolving door at QB.

    QC, Henson and Romo with no vets needed.
  3. thevinegarsting

    thevinegarsting New Member

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    One thing about Carter (IMO) is "he gets it"

    May the best QB win and take us to a division title.
  4. Erik_H

    Erik_H Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun.

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    Not to go too far off topic but...

    Anyone know who invented sliced bread? You'd think we'd have all learned the inventors name, with it being such a landmark moment and all.
  5. Hostile

    Hostile The Duke

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    Here ya go...

    Posted on Tue, Jul. 29, 2003

    History of sliced bread little known on 75th anniversary


    The Kansas City Star

    CHILLICOTHE, Mo. - Everyone has heard "it's the greatest thing since sliced bread," used to hype everything from toasters to cell phones.

    Indeed, the phrase is the ultimate depiction of innovative achievement and American know-how.

    Yet few know when and where this icon of cultural convenience made its debut in the American marketplace.

    But thanks to a curious newspaper editor, the northwest Missouri town of Chillicothe can claim the distinction of being the first place in the world where sliced bread was sold to the public 75 years ago this month.

    Kathy Stortz Ripley, editor of the Constitution-Tribune, was incredulous when she came upon a news story dated July 7, 1928, announcing that the Chillicothe Baking Co. was now marketing wrapped loaves of sliced bread to local grocery stores.

    "I read the story and thought, `This is incredible,' " said Ripley, who was researching Chillicothe's history for a book. "I couldn't believe something this big I hadn't heard of before."

    An accompanying ad trumpeted: "Announcing: The Greatest Forward Step in the Baking Industry Since Bread was Wrapped -- Sliced Kleen Maid Bread."

    But the boast is not without controversy. Battle Creek, Mich., the nation's cereal capital, also claims to be the home of sliced bread. But that claim, so far, seems half-baked. When pressed this month, Battle Creek's historians were unable to produce proof.

    Ripley took her find to Livingston County Library Director Karen Hicklin, who identified the home of the defunct Chillicothe Bakery as a brick building now housing an electronics supply shop. Sadly, the bread slicer was junked years ago.

    Hicklin eventually found old-timers who described how the bulky machine, invented by itinerant Iowa jeweler Otto Rohwedder, raised and lowered its steel blades and stuffed the sliced loaves into wax-paper wrappers.

    "I thought, `How in the world could anything like this be forgotten?' " Hicklin said.

    How indeed. Although credited with the invention, Otto Rohwedder is all but lost to history. Even the Smithsonian's American History Museum lacks information on the origins of sliced bread.

    And yet, few inventions have so monumentally capitalized on the consumer's love of convenience.

    Sliced bread saved homemakers hours of drudgery. It put toasters in every home. And it resulted in millions of peanut butter and jelly sandwiches.

    "What could be easier than to reach into a wrapped loaf of bread and pull out a slice?" said Mark Dirkes, a spokesman for Interstate Bakeries Corp. in Kansas City, which now owns Wonder Bread.

    The popularity of sliced bread eventually reduced Rohwedder to a footnote. By 1930, Rohwedder had sold his patent. Inventors and bakers improved upon his clunky machine.

    Wonder Bread, which already wrapped its loaves, built its own machines and used delivery trucks to market sliced bread across the nation.

    In fact, said Dirkes, "Sliced bread is the first innovation Wonder Bread used to build its national brand."

    The bright, balloon-imprinted wrappers of Wonder-Cut Bread advertised "Sliced" in big letters. Ad campaigns featured smiling families packing sandwiches for picnics.

    Soon every new innovation of convenience was being touted as the "greatest thing since sliced bread."

    But the true story begins in Chillicothe at M.F. Bench's Chillicothe Baking Co.

    Bob Staton, now in his 80s, remembers the machine, about 10-feet long with a "bunch of blades that swung up and swung down" making slices less than an inch wide.

    Initially, many bakers rejected the invention, saying the bread would fall apart and grow stale too fast. They contended consumers didn't care whether their bread loaves were sliced.

    Rohwedder labored over his invention more than 13 years before any bakers offered to give it a shot.

    Several references say Rohwedder first took his machine to Battle Creek. The Battle Creek Visitor and Convention Bureau on its Web site brags that Rohwedder "began making and selling pre-cut loaves of bread" at a Battle Creek bakery. But a spokeswoman for the Battle Creek bureau conceded its source was a short reference found on the Internet.

    George Livingston, a history researcher for the Willard Library in Battle Creek, said, "I've looked into it and I don't find any indication of this man's (Rohwedder) presence on the local scene."

    The Battle Creek historical museum found a reference to a Battle Creek Bread Wrapping Machine Co. But it's dated 1930, which is two years after the Chillicothe Baking Co. sliced bread.

    That makes Chillicothe's claim, at least for now, the best.

    The Constitution-Tribune's July 7, 1928, news story managed to capture the significance of sliced bread.

    "So neat and precise are the slices, and so definitely better than anyone could possibly slice by hand with a bread knife that one realizes instantly that here is a refinement that will receive a hearty and permanent welcome."

    Sometime during the Great Depression, Chillicothe baker M.F. Bench got out of the business and became Chillicothe's superintendent of streets. In 1943, Bench was quoted saying he'd always known the bread slicer would "be outstanding among improvements of that decade."

    In January 1943, at the height of World War II, the government ordered bakeries to stop slicing bread. The country needed airplanes more than it needed bread-slicing blades.

    The ban did not go over well. It was lifted three months later.

    A story March 9, 1943, in the Constitution-Tribune announced the lifting of the ban under a headline that read: "Mrs. Housewife Can Relieve Herself of Troublesome Task."

    The story noted that sliced bread was first sold commercially in Chillicothe.

    So why hasn't Chillicothe capitalized on its fame?

    One reason is that the memory faded in the decades after the Chillicothe Baking Co. closed.

    A beer bottler bought the bakery building and dumped what he thought was a pile of junk in 1960. Only later did he learn it was Rohwedder's bread slicer.

    Local tourism officials agree it's a great story. But they don't have the bread slicer, so there's nothing for tourists to look at.

    Still, Ripley, the editor, would like to see something done. After all, other Missouri towns crow about something: Hannibal claims Mark Twain, Marceline claims Walt Disney, Laclede claims John J. Pershing and St. Joseph claims the Pony Express.

    "It's hard to believe sliced bread was just invented in 1928 -- and that it was invented here," she said.

  6. jay cee

    jay cee Active Member

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    Now that was pretty interesting. Thanks Hostile.
  7. cowboy4life

    cowboy4life "I Love Me Some Me." Hit The Bricks, *******. Team

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    And the word of Bruce Coslet is gospel, right? ;)

    The above is your opinion, however, it ain't a fact.
  8. cowboy4life

    cowboy4life "I Love Me Some Me." Hit The Bricks, *******. Team

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    If I remember correctly, Tony Banks was released because he felt it was more important to personally move himself by car to Dallas instead of attending the first quarterback school. His dedication to the team was very lacking. In hindsight, I think that we've moved on.

    Also, add to the list, Ryan Leaf.
  9. Hostile

    Hostile The Duke

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    You're welcome.
  10. Erik_H

    Erik_H Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun.

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    Holy Cow! Nice answer!

    And to think, I was expecting a reply referring to the Guinness commerical.

  11. Charles

    Charles Benched

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    Good stuff.

    Thanks Hos.
  12. Hostile

    Hostile The Duke

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    I love those commercials.

    Believe it or not, I looked it up after the first comment about what was the best before sliced bread. I wondered too. As soon as you asked the question I started laughing. I had to post the story.
  13. Hostile

    Hostile The Duke

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    The thing about WWII was the most interesting to me. I guess people really wanted that sliced bread which is probably where the saying came from.
  14. Erik_H

    Erik_H Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun.

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    Good guess I'd say.

    I could ramble on a tangent about which 'best thing since sliced bread' might actually be the best. You'd think that there must be a ton of things to choose from...but I think I'd be better off letiing it go.
  15. Jimz31

    Jimz31 The Sarcastic One

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    Gee....what was the topic of the thread? Who was it about? Bull-crap that you weren't talking about "our" QB.

    And who is this "you guys" stuff?
  16. Hostile

    Hostile The Duke

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    Actually I wasn't. Just like I said. I was talking about the author JJT.

    BTW, did you happen to see the smiley face after the "you guys?"

  17. boss man

    boss man New Member

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    I wholeheartedly agree with CanadianCowboysFan and others who welcome the competition and simply want the best QB to lead the COWBOYS.

    Yes, Carter is the starter now but he has his problems. Hopefully he has really worked on the intricacies of the position and will shine during this camp. THe best news is he finally will be working with the same OC and staff for the first time since his sophomore season at UGA.

    Cost-It was a backstabbing, plotting cancer who was abused Carter to get his wonderboy Franken-hutch in the game under the uninspiring eunuch Coach Fifi. His real goal was to usurp the HC position, as if that was a challenge!! LOL!! That was a disastrous year 2002 was - starting with that humiliating defeat to the Texans.

    BTW, what team might the great offensive genius Cost-It be sharing his creative football mind with now??

    Oh, well, back to the review of the COWBOY QB's....

    Henson is hailed as the miracle man but the jump from a 4 year layoff to the NFL is immense. While he might possess all the physical characteristics of a top notch gunslinging QB, let's give him a season to learn Tuna's system and get re-used to the physical element of football; not to mention the speed at this level.

    Hutchinson is still a statue and will be the # 3 person or relegated to the practice squad if Tuna gets Testaverde or some other vet QB to mentor the eventual starter.

    For the record, I think getting Testaverde is a mistake.

    Having said all that.....may the best QB win the job!!

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