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Kiper's first look at the 2013 Draft/Big Board and others 5/9/12...

Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by Risen Star, May 28, 2012.

  1. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    Click the link for all the commentary. I'll just list the players here. Everyone with an asterisk after the name is an underclassmen in 2012.

    1.. Matt Barkley QB USC
    2.. Jarvis Jones OLB Georgia *
    3.. Barkevious Mingo DE LSU *
    4.. Logan Thomas QB Virginia Tech *
    5.. Sam Montgomery DE LSU *

    6.. D.J. Fluker T Alabama *
    7.. Robert Woods WR USC *
    8.. David Amerson CB North Carolina St. *
    9.. Star Lotulelei DT Utah
    10. Manti Te'o ILB Notre Dame

    11. Johnathan Hankins DT Ohio St. *
    12. Taylor Lewan T Michigan *
    13. Tyler Wilson QB Arkansas
    14. Johnny Adams CB Michigan St.
    15. Kawann Short DT Purdue

    16. Luke Joeckel T Texas A&M *
    17. William Gholston DE Michigan St. *
    18. Keenan Allen WR California *
    19. Marcus Lattimore RB South Carolina *
    20. Xavier Rhodes CB Florida St. *

    21. Le'Veon Bell RB Michigan St. *
    22. Johnthan Banks CB Mississippi St.
    23. Corey Lemonier DE Auburn *
    24. Ricky Wagner T Wisconsin
    25. Tyler Eifert TE Notre Dame *


    Just Missed

    Seniors
    Landry Jones QB Oklahoma
    Monte Ball RB Wisconsin
    Cobi Hamilton WR Arkansas
    Joseph Fauria TE UCLA
    Oday Aboushi T Virginia
    Chase Thomas OLB Stanford
    T.J. McDonald S USC
    Josh Simon DT Ohio St.
    Michael Buchanon DE Illinois
    Alex Okafor DE Texas
    Kevin Reddick LB North Carolina

    Juniors
    Tyler Bray QB Tennessee
    Knile Davis RB Arkansas
    Marquess Wilson WR Washington St.
    Levine Toilolo TE Stanford
    Bennie Logan DT LSU
    Tony Jefferson S Oklahoma
    Eric Reid S LSU
    Jackson Jeffcoat DE Texas
    Tyrann Mathieu CB LSU

    http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7904173/2013-nfl-draft-mel-kiper-first-big-board-year
  2. Manwiththeplan

    Manwiththeplan Well-Known Member

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    I could maybe want Star Lotulelei, but right now if you grade him on production, it's hard to say he's any better than Dontario Poe or Michael Brockers (more NT size than Brockers, who lookied like a 5 tech to me).

    And both players were still gone by 14, if he has a good season, he's a lock for top 10. Same goes for Jonathan Hawkins, nice pipe dream, but that's about it.

    Kawann Short would be a solid pick if available, but I honestly wouldn't be upset with trading back. This group pales in comparison with the last 3 drafts, and while I'm sure some unkown players will step up, many on this list will disappoint as well.

    Depending on how the interior o-line plays, trade back from the first and draft a G and a C, or 2 guards in round 2.
  3. Hoofbite

    Hoofbite Well-Known Member

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    Be interesting to look back leading up to next years draft to see how many players fell off and how many are still up there.
  4. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    It really would.

    My guess is you could see a couple of these guys, at least on the just missed list, go undrafted.

    Levy Adcock made a few of these lists last May, if I remember correctly. A lot can change in a year.
  5. cdewsxzaq

    cdewsxzaq Member

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    You will not be seeing Logan Thomas up there for long. He's simply not THAT good.

    I want to add Barkevious Mingo solely because his name is absolutely ridiculous... I can't imagine a guy named Barkevious Mingo doing anything except playing football. Also, he has a brother named Hughtavious.
  6. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    He's 3rd on his board.
  7. DFWJC

    DFWJC Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    Thomas may turn out to be better than Barkley. Maybe that mean they both are too high? I don't know.

    It should be fun to see how the season goes.
  8. xwalker

    xwalker Well-Known Member

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    Who is the top rated Center?
  9. Kangaroo

    Kangaroo Active Member

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    Costa ;)
  10. TheFinisher

    TheFinisher Well-Known Member

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    ??

    Lotulelei won the Morris trophy last year.
  11. Gaede

    Gaede Well-Known Member

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    I'm gonna make a bold prediction and say Landry Jones is our 1st round pick next year.
  12. xwalker

    xwalker Well-Known Member

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    Here are the top 10 for the only position that matters...

    CB 1 *David Amerson
    CB 2 Johnthan Banks
    CB 3 *Xavier Rhodes
    CB 4 *Tyrann Mathieu
    CB 5 *Dee Milliner
    CB 6 Johnny Adams
    CB 7 *Carrington Byndom
    CB 8 Micah Hyde
    CB 9 Jordan Poyer
    CB 10 *Nickell Robey
  13. Manwiththeplan

    Manwiththeplan Well-Known Member

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    And Michael Brockers was 2nd team all SEC, my point was, statistically not much seperates Lotulelei (9 TFL, 1.5 sacks) from Brockers (10 TFL, 2 sacks), or even Poe (8 TFL, 1 sack).
  14. silverbear

    silverbear Semi-Official Loose Cannon

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    Unless Landry cuts way down on the ints, he won't be a first round pick... this is going to be a very good, very deep crop of quarterbacks....
  15. EchoBrain22

    EchoBrain22 beWaredizzle

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    I hope we dont got for Landry. We should keep an eye on Geno Smith this season, he is a gamer.
  16. TheFinisher

    TheFinisher Well-Known Member

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    My mistake, you're talking about stats. I was thinking you were saying production as in good game film.

    FWIW, If all you're looking for is a big stat line then you're probably not going to like Lotulelei come draft time.
  17. Avery

    Avery The Dog that Saved Charleston

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    Lotulelei is never going to be a pad statter. His entire game is based around getting double or triple teamed freeing up his teammates to make plays.

    He won't be #1 like Suntan Man thinks, but he's a no-brainer top 15 pick. He'd look great as a star but if we're picking that high, I'd be pissed.
  18. TheDallasDon

    TheDallasDon AegonTheConqueror-Now bend the knee

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    Anyone who doesn't want Star with a star on his helmet is clueless.
  19. SwervinCurvin

    SwervinCurvin Benched

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    Apparently you haven't really seen him play.
  20. ndanger

    ndanger Active Member

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    Call me crazy but, I could live with that.

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