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Lil Kim going to jail

Discussion in 'Off-topic Zone' started by Yeagermeister, Jul 6, 2005.

  1. Yeagermeister

    Yeagermeister Active Member

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    Rapper Lil' Kim gets 366 days in prison

    Wednesday, July 6, 2005; Posted: 4:38 p.m. EDT (20:38 GMT)


    Lil' Kim whose real name is Kimberly Jones enters federal court in New York before her sentencing.
    NEW YORK (AP) -- Grammy-winning rapper Lil' Kim was sentenced Wednesday to a year and a day in prison and fined $50,000 for lying to a federal grand jury to protect friends involved in a 2001 shootout outside a Manhattan radio station.

    While many rappers have served time in prison, Lil' Kim is the first big-name female to do so.

    Lil' Kim, whose real name is Kimberly Jones, could have gotten up to 20 years -- five years each on three counts of perjury and one count of conspiracy -- at her sentencing before U.S. District Judge Gerard Lynch. A jury convicted her in March on the charges.

    Lil' Kim, who turns 30 next week, was the sidekick and mistress of the late Notorious B.I.G. As a solo artist, she has become known for her revealing outfits and raunchy lyrics. She won a Grammy in 2001 for her part in the hit remake of "Lady Marmalade."

    The rapper told the grand jury she did not notice two of her close friends at the scene of the shootout -- her manager, Damion Butler, and Suif Jackson, known as "Gutta." Both have pleaded guilty to gun charges.

    Jurors at Lil' Kim's trial saw radio station security photos that depicted Butler opening a door for the rap star, and two witnesses who made records with Lil' Kim said they saw her at the station with Butler and Jackson.

    The gun battle happened outside WQHT-FM, known as Hot 97, when Lil' Kim's entourage crossed paths with a rival rap group, Capone-N-Noreaga.

    Lil' Kim's group confronted the others about the Capone-N-Noreaga song "Bang, Bang" that contained an insult to Lil' Kim from rival Foxy Brown. One man was hurt in the shootout that followed.

    Hot 97 is the same station where the posses of 50 Cent and The Game traded bullets in February.

    Falling out with freeloaders
    At the trial, Lil' Kim testified that she had a falling out after the shooting with Butler and with Antoine "Banger" Spain and James "Lil' Cease" Lloyd, the two witnesses who said they saw her with Butler and Jackson.

    She said they were freeloading at her New Jersey townhouse. "I was just fed up," she told jurors. "They were taking advantage of me."

    Her career began with an impromptu street performance for Notorious B.I.G. in their Brooklyn neighborhood. She became "Queen Bee," the only woman in his otherwise all-male clique.

    Her 1996 debut album, "Hard Core," was laced with sexually explicit lyrics and became a big hit, thanks to songs like "Crush On You" and others with unmentionable titles.

    In other legal problems, two men sued Lil' Kim earlier this year, saying she failed to pay them for songwriting and performing services for the 2003 album "La Bella Mafia," which sold more than 1 million copies.

    The rapper arrived at the courthouse Wednesday with bodyguards who cleared her path through the waiting media.

    Some fans also were there, proclaiming their support.

    One man's T-shirt read "Free Lil' Kim" and "Real Men Don't Snitch."
  2. trickblue

    trickblue Old Testament... Zone Supporter

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    Man... I used to watch her on Facts of Life...

    Another child star gone bad... :(
  3. adbutcher

    adbutcher K9NME

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    Wrong little Kim, lol. :D
  4. trickblue

    trickblue Old Testament... Zone Supporter

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    Yeah... I know... but I used to have a crush on Kim Fields and I like to throw her name in when I can... :D
  5. WV Cowboy

    WV Cowboy Waitin' on the 6th

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    How sad, these "gangsta rappers" need to figure it out.

    They aren't 16, and in the hood anymore.
  6. dallasblue05

    dallasblue05 New Member

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    now she can call herself a real rapper.......cuz she got convicted of something. You cant be hardcore without some kind of indictment.....lol
  7. WoodysGirl

    WoodysGirl Do it for the Vine! Staff Member

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    Not to defend her, but she was never a "gansta rapper." Her thing has always been about sex, in all capacities.

    Her problem is like a lot of folks who grew up in the "hood." It's knowing when to let ur friends face their own consequences and not get caught up in it themselves. Loyalty should only go so far and I'm not doing jail time for anybody.

    What makes it worse is she admits she lied after she was sentenced. Tell the truth in the beginning and you wouldn't be fighting off Big Betty in the showers.
  8. jterrell

    jterrell Penguinite

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    I respect her decision to not sell out people who were there to protect her.

    Just because she isn't in the hood anymore doesn't mean she can't keep some loyalty.
    There are worse fates than jail and being a snitch is one of them.

    She is gonna be ok physically and financially.

    Its too bad she got all that work done, she really was a cutie.
  9. dallasblue05

    dallasblue05 New Member

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    jterrell......are u really suggesting that lying under oath to a federal court is ok? I mean, I understand loyalty, but I am loyal to myself above all, and sending myself to jail is not being loyal to myself. I understand not wanting to be snitch and what it looks like if you are, but at the same time, if someone is caught......you cant be a snitch, because they are already caught.
  10. WoodysGirl

    WoodysGirl Do it for the Vine! Staff Member

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    When you're a celebrity, then some things you gotta let go, IMO. You're right there are worse fates than jail, but if you don't have to go, then just tell the truth. Loyalty is one thing, but this is one case where her boys were clearly guilty. She didn't have to lie, because they were going down regardless. The case was airtight against her.
    You're so right. She look like a clown now.

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    Outside court

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    at her b-day party
  11. jman

    jman Active Member

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    I have no respect for anyone that condones violence for what they may preceive as disrespect from some other clown. And that's exactly what the whole bunch of them are. You don't pull guns out and start shooting in the middle of the streets just because your rival got one over on you. This aint the freaking wild, wild west anymore.

    And you are right, there are worse things than jail...being dead is one of them. Not being a "snitch" can get a lot of others killed also. You do not take the law into your own hands...period. She may not have been a "Gangsta Rapper" but she sure the hell acted like one and she got what was coming to her for it.

    I hope she learns to keep the trash out of her life after she does her time.
  12. ROMOSAPIEN9

    ROMOSAPIEN9 Proud Grandpa

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    She might wanna start with the person in the mirror.
  13. Hoov

    Hoov Senior Member

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    Well, i will agree that she and her cronies got themselves into all kinds of nonsense, and this was likely a situation that escalated over time into a deadly game, prolly both groups had guns.

    That being said, once the s*it went down, i will go with jterrell as saying you keep your mouth shut and dont rat out your friends. But they never should have been in this situation in the first place.
  14. dallasblue05

    dallasblue05 New Member

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    Her friends were already caught!! She was just on the stand. Her friends were going down regardless, and as you see, they went down even though she lied. So what does that do for her, or her friends?
  15. WoodysGirl

    WoodysGirl Do it for the Vine! Staff Member

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    I could understand not ratting them out, if there was no way to prove you had no knowledge. But they had witnesses and I even remember reading that there was video of her in that situation. There was no way around it. So why lie??
  16. Hoov

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    well that doesnt make any sense, the article said she lied about her friends being at the place where the shooting occurred. but that it was reported that they were seen with her on camera and by witnesses.

    Now if they were already found guilty, and it was common knowledge and they admitted to being there, why would she lie they werent there. I thought she lied, and then later the friends were found guilty and so the evidence that showed she was with them forced her to come clean (i mean, she was right there on camera). The article said she lied to protect her friends which leads me to beleive she lied before they were found guilty.

    Now it appears that her lie was stupid, saying they werent there when witnesses saw them there with her. she could have said she didnt know anything about a shooting occuring that night.

    But maybe there is more to it then printed in this short article, that might make me change my mind.
  17. dallasblue05

    dallasblue05 New Member

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    exactly, if it hasnt hit the fan, dont make it do so, but if it has, dont go down with the people that are already going down, especially if they are going down despite what you say. Of course, who ever accuse Lil Kim of being smart anyway.
  18. dallasblue05

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    I'm sure there i more to the story than any of us know. I followed the story and what I got from it, is that Lil Kim was on the stand even though there was a very solid case against her friends. They werent convicted yet, but there was a strong case against them. That being said, she shouldnt have even taken the chance. But that is just my opinion. There could be something in the actual reports that changes my mind as well, but haveing followed the story, I feel my judgement of the case is well educated. Not that yours isnt....
  19. heavyg

    heavyg Active Member

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    Well if you don't want to "rat" on your friends then plea the 5th. If you lie to the grand jury or any court you diserve what ever you get. I for one am a law abiding citizen. I am not saying I have never broke the law but my law breaking consisted of driving a little over the speed limit a time or two. Had I been caught I would have paid the penalty and not cried about it.
  20. adbutcher

    adbutcher K9NME

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    Her next album will be huge. In a twisted kind of way this is very good for her career. Her street creed will go through the roof.

    There ain't no such thing as bad publicity.

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