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Livings and Leary Limited to Start Camp

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by Teague31, Jul 20, 2013.

  1. Teague31

    Teague31 Defender of the Star

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    Per Red in his presser. Calf for Leary, foot for Livings. Neither expected to miss much time. I hope not, we need to sort out the OL ASAP.
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  2. tommydo08

    tommydo08 Member

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    Read that as "food for Livings".
  3. AsthmaField

    AsthmaField Outta bounds

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    OMG... not this ish again.
  4. TheRomoSexual

    TheRomoSexual Well-Known Member

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    Haha, wow, calm down.
  5. iceman117

    iceman117 Active Member

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    Leary really needs this camp to learn the offense perfectly and get some continuity with Free/Parnell. I hope this calf injury isn't something that lingers and makes him miss a bunch of time and costs him the starting guard position.
  6. MonsterD

    MonsterD Quota outta absentia

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    Anyone sign Moore yet? Just if by chance we would need to.
  7. SilverStarCowboy

    SilverStarCowboy The Actualist

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    If not we need to do so, and we have the cap space. Moore should have been here already.
  8. TheRomoSexual

    TheRomoSexual Well-Known Member

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    There's obviously a reason he hasn't been picked up by any team.
  9. SilverStarCowboy

    SilverStarCowboy The Actualist

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  10. TheRomoSexual

    TheRomoSexual Well-Known Member

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  11. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Staff Member

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    I can see the merit of signing him, but I can see the merit in letting things playout a little here. Keep in mind the Cowboys start camp a week before most other teams so a few days in flux is OK.

    Also 2002 was a long time ago, I'd like to see a younger guy get a good shot at starting as opposed to losing snaps to an old vet.
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  12. SilverStarCowboy

    SilverStarCowboy The Actualist

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    Is that why he started for one of the best NFL Olines over the past Decade without being Drafted.

    And MWini., who do you think is better right now Leary, Livings or Moore. (when healthy)
  13. TheRomoSexual

    TheRomoSexual Well-Known Member

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    Um, ok? There's obviously a huge difference between underrating a draft prospect and underrating a free agent.
  14. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Staff Member

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    Brandon Moore and the end of 2012 was a little better than Livings. No doubt at the end of 2012 both were better than Leary.

    Now as we enter the 2013 season who knows what the ability of each of the players is. Moore is at the age where drop off could come at any time. And Leary is at the age where fast improvement can happen– and from what we here from the OTA's and the minicamp there was improvement.

    My guess is that Moore has overpriced his hand and that's why he's sitting at home.

    Livings under his current contract or an improved Leary are a reasonable option over committing a couple mil per year towards Moore IMO.
  15. SilverStarCowboy

    SilverStarCowboy The Actualist

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    Maybe....maybe not, Brandon Albert... but he has been here for a visit.....so Dallas has an opinion. History says Moore can stay on the field, it fills a need, he wouldn't get cut and he'd come cheap.
  16. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Staff Member

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    What source do you have that says he would come cheap?
  17. SilverStarCowboy

    SilverStarCowboy The Actualist

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    Better than Leary and Livings, sitting at 8 under the Cap and not worth 2 mil.?
  18. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Staff Member

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    IMO... No.

    It's like this, I want this team to be a playoff team this year... But more so I want this to be a playoff team for the next several years and to make that happen you need youth (as much as you can).

    The other thing is that Livings is signed and there wasn't a big drop-off from Moore to Livings.

    Finally, this team is going to need every cent of cap space it can get next season and therefore it needs to rollover as much cap space from this season as it possibly can.
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  19. SilverStarCowboy

    SilverStarCowboy The Actualist

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  20. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Staff Member

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    I would think the Cowboys brain trust is aware of Moore.

    And I would think that if the need is there they will give him their due diligence.

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