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Recommended Loss Forensics: Romo vs. the League's Top QB

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by percyhoward, Jul 3, 2014.

  1. casmith07

    casmith07 I'm the best poster in the game!

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    I'm not going to compare first-full-year starter Romo to the guy playing now. We won a lot that year and he also threw a lot of interceptions. He's a different player now than he was then.

    Surely the book was written on Dez Bryant's career his rookie season - right? Wrong. The same analysis should NOT apply to Romo.
  2. LatinMind

    LatinMind iPhotoshop

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    Theres a difference and its big. Dez isnt making the same mistakes he did as a rookie. Romo still does.

    Romo is who he is. He will amaze you one play and then break your heart the next play or next series.
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  3. brooksey1

    brooksey1 Well-Known Member

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    I never used the words "Current Starter".

    I'm saying there's not a coach in the NFL who "Needs a Qb" that wouldn't take Romo because "HE CANT WIN THE BIG ONE".

    Don't try to twist my words and get cute, name your GM's, Coaches and Scouts who say they wouldn't take Romo because he can't win the big One.

    Keep in mind there are thousands of scouts, ex-scouts , GM's, former GM'S and coaches, ex-coaches, so this testimony should be plentiful.
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  4. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    and all those that laugh at you laugh some more...
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  5. ufcrules1

    ufcrules1 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, I agree. Thanks for the pro Romo stats again Percy. :D
  6. percyhoward

    percyhoward Research Tool

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    To paraphrase an analogy you once made, there's a whole mess of crooked decks being built in these replies. Some good ones too, though.
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  7. percyhoward

    percyhoward Research Tool

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    I don't know if you read the OP, but it was an analysis of all the plays (good and bad) late in close losses. Not just the plays that made any one QB look good or bad.

    That's why every player looked both good and bad.

    OK maybe not Rivers, but you get the point.
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  8. casmith07

    casmith07 I'm the best poster in the game!

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    You're wrong about this. And to suggest through context that he's allegedly the only athlete that ever makes mistakes is disingenuous. I'll let you have the last word.
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  9. LatinMind

    LatinMind iPhotoshop

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    No but in this thread im talking specifically about Romo. What i find funny is in every post i have said Romo is very good, but he has some baggage in bad tendencies. But certain people only want to harp on the bad tendencies part. Too many thread killers in this forum.
  10. gimmesix

    gimmesix Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life

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    The problem with this is always going to be that there are no lesser games in the NFL. The more you win early on, the less the others matter. Every one is important from that aspect.

    As far as lesser teams, the one you bring up here was certainly not one that year, yet some like you deem it less important because it wasn't a so-called "elimination game."

    It's a skewed perspective.
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  11. jnday

    jnday Well-Known Member

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    There is a thread on this board that quoted several.
    it is not skewed. Elimination game, win or go home game, high pressure game, etc, are all used to make the point that Romo will let you down when you need him the most. He will do it again this year and the usual posters will deny what their eyes show them.
  12. Super_Kazuya

    Super_Kazuya Well-Known Member

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    It's skewed. You're just not capable of understanding it. Too much ESPN. There's nothing special about these made up games.
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  13. jnday

    jnday Well-Known Member

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    Have you noticed that the Cowboys have done very little to prove ESPN or the other critics wrong?
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  14. percyhoward

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    I understand that some are asking "why can't we get that 9th win?" with no consideration of the previous eight, but maybe the question we should be asking is "why can't we win 9 games?"
  15. Super_Kazuya

    Super_Kazuya Well-Known Member

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    When you can literally invent the criteria out of thin air, it is pretty easy to make oneself seem like a Nostradamus. I don't view ESPN as a critic. They are only concerned with ratings. It is certainly not just this team/quarterback that they sensationalize in their quest for eyes and ears.
  16. DallasEast

    DallasEast Cowboys 24/7/365 Zone Supporter

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    lol @ crooked decks.

    You are as kind a person as you are intelligent. You graced this board with an OP as pristine as Lanikai Beach in Hawaii, filled with lush fauna, sparkling sand, and crystal clear blue green waters. Shortly afterwards, people came along and started erecting port-a-potties all over it. lol.
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  17. DFWJC

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    The thing is, jnday, he DIDN'T do it in the most important games he played in last year.
    In fact, the team was 5-0 in those games.

    And more in fact, in the final game of that sort--when the season was over if we had lost--he and the offense had a fairly heroic game-winning TD drive capped by a game-winning pass by him. That happened with him even playing with a herniated disc. Unheard of , really.

    That is as FAR from letting us down as you can get.
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  18. KJJ

    KJJ You Have an Axe to Grind

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    No one is trying to twist your words. You said there's not a coach in the NFL who wouldn't take Romo. You went on to say there are some QB's in the league you personally would take over Romo. How are those comments suppose to be taken? Anyone would assume you're referring to a current starter. There's not a team in the league who wouldn't take Romo as their backup but there's plenty of teams who wouldn't take him over their current starter. The only one who's trying to twist words is you. Show me a quote where I claimed GM's, coach's and scouts wouldn't take Romo because he can't win the big one?
  19. jnday

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    You are certainly using different games to firm your opinion. If you are referring to NFCE teams, he went 5-0 against very bad teams in a very bad division. The list of let-downs have been posted many times. If you choose not to blame Romo for those big game turnovers and meltdowns, that is your decision. It happens too often in the same situations with Romo for me to overlook it.
  20. DFWJC

    DFWJC Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    You're putting words in my mouth..or maybe confusing me with someone else.
    When did I ever say Romo did not share in the blame for losses, or wins for that matter?

    The point was I just stated fact--the 5 most important games he played in last year, we won.
    If you want to devalue those wins based on what the records were, go for it.
    It is telling though. Because they were still division games, and those games, especially on the road, tend to be high stress and tough, regardless of who is playing in them.
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