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Twitter: Machota: Romo changed play on 3rd and goal play; Dez didn't know

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by WoodysGirl, Sep 16, 2013.

  1. superonyx

    superonyx Well-Known Member

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    So a NFL safety cant cover 10-15 yards in 2-3 seconds? You should know this isnt true. I can cover 10 yards in 3 seconds and I am not an NFL safety.

    You say the ball should have gone to Bryant period.......So lets say your inside source that told you the safety was blitzing was wrong....Lets say the safety wasnt blitzing and was instead rolling to Dez...Then should the ball still have gone to Dez? If it would have and it would have been picked off then all of the Romo bashers would be posting how stupid he is for throwing into double coverage.

    You say he was isolated before yet this is based on your judgement that the safety could be blitzing. Meanwhile Romo read that the safety wasnt blitzing.....Any particular reason we should believe you over Romo?
  2. McLovin

    McLovin Well-Known Member

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    Not to get in the middle, but have you seen the coaches film replay?
  3. texbumthelife

    texbumthelife Well-Known Member

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    Lord have mercy please tell me you have it. He clearly needs to see the play a few more times from beginning to end.

    Im through. I can't argue against such doggedness.
  4. texbumthelife

    texbumthelife Well-Known Member

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    Here is a picture by picture breakdown:
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    This is the play pre-audible. As I watch the film, he never once even looks Dez's way prior to snap. He sees the Chiefs crowd the LOS and, as he did in the fourth quarter, becomes a little rattled and goes to the audible.
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    Here is Romo as he is mid-audible. Romo waves his hand at Dez. At this point he should/could clearly have seen the coverage. There is no defender other than Flowers who has any chance to make a play on a throw to Dez.
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    Murray shifts across the formation. This could have been do to the audible or Romo could have changed the protection in addition to changing the play.
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    The defender, who is assigned man coverage on Murray, due to the blitz, has followed Murray across the formation.
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    Here is Romo post audible (we know this because of where Murray is lined up). At this point he should have seen coverage on Dez when he "relayed the audible". He snaps the ball almost immediately after this shot (Fox drops the playclock from the screen so I used this cap). So, he had roughly 6-7 seconds. Is this enough time to relay an adjustment to Dez? That is pure opinion. I think it was more than enough time.
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    Immediately following the snap, the blitzers begin their rush. Romo fakes the draw to Murray, which sucks his defender into the play. Everyone is locked into either zone blitz coverage or man to man. Either way, Dez is clearly still single covered.

    I don't know what else to do if this can't convince you. Romo made several errors on this play. I think some of it was due to the previous sack and penalty on first and second down, but most of it was do to his reaction to KC showing blitz. He got flustered, just like he did in the fourth when we were driving for the win.

    There are a lot of excuses anyone can make for Romo. I could come up with a handful all by myself. The fact of the matter is, this play was solely on him. He made more than one bad decision and it may have cost us six points.

    You have to trust you best offensive weapon in that situation. When you don't trust players to make plays, you throw safe, two-yard patterns and try to nickel and dime your way down the field. That's exactly what we did as an offensive unit and it is the greatest factor in why we lost this game.
  5. McLovin

    McLovin Well-Known Member

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    That is exactly what th film shows.the safety was never closer to dez than frame 1 pre-audible.
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  6. texbumthelife

    texbumthelife Well-Known Member

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    McLovin, does that play look like it may have been a read-option WR screen? Sort of like Chip Kelly runs? It really looks like it to me. Romo even seems to watch the DL as he puts the ball into Murray's chest and then quickly fling it outside when he sees the whole line collapse.

    Watch the video and let me know what you think. I am contemplating tweeting a DC.com guys about it.
  7. McLovin

    McLovin Well-Known Member

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    It did have that look, but murray had to pick up the ilb an romo didnt really " read" many "keys"... more of a quick fake.

    I think reid had seen and expected that play from that formation from philly days. Too many got to ball too quick.

    I think there are tendancies other teams have keyed on.
  8. TheXFactor

    TheXFactor Well-Known Member

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    Superonyx is arguing that the safety was covering Dez pre audible, but this film clearly disproves that since the safety is all the way on the other hash mark. At no point whatsoever was Dez double covered, thus making this play Romo's fault.
  9. ABQCOWBOY

    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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    Look, your post is not that complicated and the words are not that big. I understood what you said. I don't agree.

    Agree to disagree. It's about as much as you are going to get in this thread.
  10. Zman5

    Zman5 Well-Known Member

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    Yeh sure man. If you says so. I don't agree you did.
  11. ABQCOWBOY

    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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    Whatever. I'm sure everybody cares about who agrees with what.

    Agree to disagree.

    Have a nice day.
  12. Zman5

    Zman5 Well-Known Member

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    Yep. Have a good one.
  13. texbumthelife

    texbumthelife Well-Known Member

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  14. dstovall5

    dstovall5 Well-Known Member

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    @Zman5
    @ABQCOWBOY

    Neither of you shall get the last word! I will get the last word in this conversation, muhaha.

    :D
  15. Zman5

    Zman5 Well-Known Member

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    Oh No you don't. ;):p:confused:
  16. Staubacher

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    Definitely not the greatest factor in losing. First off it didn't cost 6 points like you said it MAY have cost 4 we made a FG. Secondly, while going to Dez was the best call there it wasn't a guarantee Romo completes a fade pass or if it's a quick hitter/slant that Dez makes the end zone.

    A mistake not to go to Dez, yes. But we were still up 6 points after the FG so how did it cost the game. Saying it hurt momentum or whatever is not proof. The biggest play that 100 percent cost points was the Dunbar fumble. The KC recovery and return put them in FG position and directly (not assumption, fact) gave KC 3 points. We lost by 1. I'd put the Dez drop above it also since it was either a FG or even TD if he catches it.

    Regardless, Romo should have found Dez there and he will learn from it. It's not like he has been shying away from Dez he just missed it there and i highly doubt it happens again.

    It's way past move on time and worry about the Rams
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  17. dstovall5

    dstovall5 Well-Known Member

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    Honestly, you really can't pin-point one play in that game and say it's "why we lost this game". I mean you can, but it really wouldn't be an accurate statement, because there were many plays that cost us big that game.

    We had 2 dropped gimme interceptions, 2 careless fumbles, a crucial dropped pass, a misread in the endzone, stupid penalties, and there's plenty more to go on about. I don't see how you could point to one of those plays and say, man that play cost us the game. Even the Dez Bryant drop that possibly could've went for 6, it hurt the team tremendously, but there were many other mistakes adding up to that moment.
  18. texbumthelife

    texbumthelife Well-Known Member

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    I never said it was the greatest factor in us losing, nor did anyone else. So I don't know where you got that. It did potentially cost us six points. We may have recouped some of those, but we didn't get six on the play. Nothing is a guarantee, thats impossible to argue. No one guaranteed anything. However, if its the best matchup and the best option, it should have been exploited.

    That's all I have said all along. All this other mess you're trying to use to make whatever point it is you're trying to make, is all coming from your mind.

    Where did I say it cost us the game? Again, you're imagining/assuming things that haven't been said.

    While I never said it killed momentum, another argument your fabricated, I will bite because it's pretty easy. ANYTIME you leave points on the board, it hurts you. Period. No, it wasn't a guarantee, but I shouldn't even have to qualify that. That's pretty well established. I shouldn't have to speak in such elementary ways.

    Ok, what does that have to do with this thread? Read the thread title? The thread is about this play in particular. That's why we are discussing it.

    Did you or did you not just come into this thread, chime in with your two cents, most of which completely unfounded as I just pointed out, and then say we shouldn't be discussing it any more?
  19. texbumthelife

    texbumthelife Well-Known Member

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    Who did that? I must have missed it...
  20. dstovall5

    dstovall5 Well-Known Member

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    I was referring to -

    "You have to trust you best offensive weapon in that situation. When you don't trust players to make plays, you throw safe, two-yard patterns and try to nickel and dime your way down the field. That's exactly what we did as an offensive unit and it is the greatest factor in why we lost this game."

    I misread it, I thought you were talking about the misread by Romo, but it seems like you were just talking about our play calling throughout the game. As for the trust thing, that's not an issue so I don't really see why you brought that up, because it's very obvious Romo has trust in Dez Bryant.
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