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Manny Lawson at 18??

Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by peplaw06, Feb 6, 2006.

  1. peplaw06

    peplaw06 That Guy

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    Maybe I'm blind or haven't seen enough mock drafts. Lots of people on here are talking about Manny Lawson for us at 18. But I have yet to see him on any mock drafts being taken in the first round. So my question, is he a reach for us at 18?? Obviously we could trade down if he is a reach. Or maybe if you've seen a mock draft where he's taken in the first round, please post.
  2. neosapien23

    neosapien23 Well-Known Member

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    Ware wasn't in the mock first rounds last year either. Lawson is even faster than Ware and is just as good as a pass rusher at the college level. After the combine, he will shoot up the draft boards. With that I would rather take Jon Scott at 18.
  3. Z-Man

    Z-Man New Member

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    Draft projections will change drastically after the combine.
  4. Dayton Cowboy

    Dayton Cowboy Active Member

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    If we go OLB at 18, and Carpenter is still on the board, Carpenter is my first pick preference. Well unless somehow AJ Hawk is still available ( I can dream big)
  5. Clove

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    Only teams that run a 3-4 would probably be most interested. And alot of those teams have different needs.

    I would take Carpenter, and if he's there at 18, I might seriously entertain any team interested in trading up.
  6. neosapien23

    neosapien23 Well-Known Member

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  7. KD

    KD Active Member

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    GBN has him going number 12 to the Browns and with a good combine effort I expect him to go somewhere around there. He is supposed to be a workout warrior and after doing so well in Senior Bowl practices, he will shoot up after the combine.
  8. Clove

    Clove Shrinkage

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  9. Z-Man

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  10. NewmanFan4

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    My problem with Lawson is this:

    Lawson is a liability in run defense. As a strong side OLB in the 3-4, that has to be your forte. Now, Lawson IS a terror on the pass rush, but that is for the WOLB, which is already manned by Ware. If we were to draft Lawson, he would make our pass rush better, but our run defense worse. I think he could improve our team as a whole, but Ware, with his improved skills against the run might have to move to SOLB. I'm not too comfortable with that.

    Carpenter is a great choice for SOLB in the 3-4. I'm just afraid he'll be gone by the time we pick. Or he'll be there, and we'll trade down to try to get him later, and someone will snatch him up before he gets to us.
  11. neosapien23

    neosapien23 Well-Known Member

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  12. junk

    junk I've got moxie

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    This is my belief as well. Everyone here is trying to convince me that Dallas wants two pass rushing demons on each side.

    Looking at BP's history, he is probably more likely to draft an ILB and move him to OLB.

    Carpenter is a prototype SOLB in the 3-4 IMO.
  13. CrazyCowboy

    CrazyCowboy Well-Known Member

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    Are you sure he is faster then Ware? I would like to see that race......if he is faster then Ware.....I say take him.
  14. neosapien23

    neosapien23 Well-Known Member

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    Yes he is faster. He was supposedly clocked at 4.43 forty. I think Ware was somewhere around a 4.56.
  15. jbsg02

    jbsg02 Active Member

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    I think I would take Carpenter over Lawson. Carpenter was very productive and his pass rushing skills are under-rated.

    We will have to wait til after free agency to see what positions are filled.
  16. Clove

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  17. btcutter

    btcutter Well-Known Member

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    No...No...No..

    Lawson's coach said in his interview (someone posted it in the recent past) that Lawson is a very good DE when he can concentrate on passrush. He is much less effective when he has to think and diagnose the pass.

    if his coach thinks that, it meant to me that he has questionable instincts. That's not going to cut it in a 3-4 OLB. No way I am taking him in the 1st. He almost reminds me of Peppi Zellner (anyone remember? one of our 4th rounders)

    Give me a instinctive and productive LB who can give our D an attitude in the 1st or a starting OT.
  18. Z-Man

    Z-Man New Member

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    Zellner didn't play divison I ball nor did he have Lawson's speed. So how there's any comparison????He also only played defensive end in the NFL, never lining up at OLB.
  19. kartr

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