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Manufacturing returning to the US

Discussion in 'Off-topic Zone' started by Cowboy Brian, Nov 2, 2013.

  1. Cowboy Brian

    Cowboy Brian Romo 2 Austin Zone Supporter

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    Anyone have any opinions on this? (Beating the mods to it - keep it unpolitical). Even Walmart has announced all of their self-produced lines will be manufactured within the US. Chinas' skyrocketing cost of labor has made it nearly equal, and cheaper in some cases (large products that are expensive to ship), combined with increasing cost of fuel has made it cheaper to produce in the US than paying for it to be produced elsewhere.

    Infact 21% of manufacturing companies are preparing to move most, if not all, of their manufacturing back in to the US and we are going to finish 2013 with a positive figure in manufacturing jobs for the first time since the '90s or so (before someone cites the figure yeah it's only a net gain of 2,000 so far this year but that beats a loss of 500,000...). Some economists are predicting a gain as high as 100,000 next year and nearly all of these jobs are in the "middle class range", which varies greatly by region.
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  2. dropdeadfred5

    dropdeadfred5 Active Member

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    good sign- and I do not think there is another 'china' around as there has been for the last 40 years or so (first Japan, then Taiwan, etc with China being the last) where there was very cheap labor and the infrastructure built to support it. India is too messed up; and there is really nowhere else that looks like it could rise to challenge. So this might very well be a continuing trend.
  3. Hoofbite

    Hoofbite Well-Known Member

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    It will last until they find some other population willing to work for fractions of a dollar per hour. Then they'll move out.
  4. Cowboy Brian

    Cowboy Brian Romo 2 Austin Zone Supporter

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    I don't know if it's possible as while the cost of labor in China has risen dramatically most of the increase in the cost of manufacturing has come from shipping costs, especially on large products. Another factor is the fact that "Made in the USA" has become such a strong marketing gimmick within the US, particularly in communities with large manufacturing workforces.

    Maybe the growth stops 15 years or so when Africa attempts to rise as a manufacturing hub, since the shipping would be much shorter to the east coast.
  5. Jammer

    Jammer Retired Air Force Guy Zone Supporter

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    I actively try to buy "American" made and I will pay more if it's within reason, but more often than not I can't find anything. More manufacturing coming back to the U.S. is good news.
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  6. roughneck266

    roughneck266 Well-Known Member

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    Good! I sure hope this all comes to pass. Frankly, I see no other way out of the financial mess we have gotten ourselves into.
  7. Shunpike

    Shunpike Active Member

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    I am in the same boat. Maybe it is extreme but I use this logic when preferring Apple over Samsung, Xbox over Sony, Ford over Honda etc.
  8. CashMan

    CashMan Well-Known Member

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    Yes. but these products, a family does not buy over and over. You buy like 1 car every 4-5 years, Computer/tablets maybe like every 2-3yrs you replace, where as maybe the toys you buy at the store for your kids, you buy over and over and over.
  9. Shunpike

    Shunpike Active Member

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    Yes you are right. I just wanted to point out my logic. I always favor US made products or US companies over foreign companies if the price or quality difference is not very significant.

    Look I know Samsung phones or tablets do better job but I still prefer iPhone. I know Honda is more fuel efficient yada yada yada but I still go for Ford.

    Same thing in my small purchases. If I see "Made in USA " that's where my money goes.

    Enough is enough

    We need to favor American products and companies for the sake of our country.
  10. CashMan

    CashMan Well-Known Member

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    I think that is fine.

    For me, it is about quality, I do not care, where the item is built, I prefer quality.
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  11. Teren_Kanan

    Teren_Kanan Well-Known Member

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    Pretty much this.
  12. Nomad

    Nomad Active Member

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    EXACTLY. This bothered me in both the car thread and the XBOX vs PS4 thread here that people lacked national loyalty.

    Also I have some New Balance shoes that were made in the USA, thought that was cool since shoes were always a big overseas item.
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  13. Shunpike

    Shunpike Active Member

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    Giants are not playing this week so I have more free time. :)

    Why pick quality over US made products?

    My money goes to a US company or a US worker.

    Your money goes to a foreigner no matter what.

    At some point, you have to favor your country over quality.

    Did Japanese used American cars after World War 2? Did Korean used American products after the big war?

    The hell with quality. I side with companies owned by Americans or products made by Americans.
  14. CashMan

    CashMan Well-Known Member

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    1. I pick quality, it might be American made, it might be foreign, I really do not care who makes the product.
    2. OK
    3. Like I said, not all of the time.
    4. Not really. If an American product is less than par, why would I buy that crap?
    5. You have a few different factors here. Other countries mind sets, and war time. Too much politics/tax codes go into farming outside the US, too much for me to care about.
    6. When I want to buy something, I go and find reviews on the product, it they are good and the price is good, then I buy it.

    I really wasn't attacking you, your post comes off very defensive.
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  15. Shunpike

    Shunpike Active Member

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    CashMan

    Are you not watching the Dallas game really? :)

    I have crappy Jets so I kind of took the time off. I wasn't trying to be defensive really. I just wanted to explain my logic. I don't expect all of us have the same motives while shopping so it is all good. Enjoy. I hope you won't mind me rooting for Vikings :)
  16. CashMan

    CashMan Well-Known Member

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    It is on. Hard to get excited for mediocrity.
  17. Shunpike

    Shunpike Active Member

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    just checked ESPN. Vikes up 10-6

    What is going on? :)
  18. Cowboy Brian

    Cowboy Brian Romo 2 Austin Zone Supporter

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    You're a Vikings fan? What? Why are you on the CowboysZone lol. I'm genuinely curious, Redskins fans, Eagles Fans, etc; make some resemblence of sense but Vikings?
  19. Shunpike

    Shunpike Active Member

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    Haha

    Not sure if you see my sig or not? Maybe I am too drunk :)

    I am a Vikes fan just for this game. :)
  20. Shunpike

    Shunpike Active Member

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    Okay

    Cowboys win

    Congrats guys.

    By the way

    USA USA USA USA

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