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Manziel: "I grew up a Cowboys fan, I was born at halftime of a game, would be folktale to wear Star"

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by Zordon, Feb 14, 2014.

  1. rags747

    rags747 Well-Known Member

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    And yet you must be one with the beefcake photo in your sig. Kind of like what my daughter has on her walls. Beard?
  2. coult44

    coult44 Well-Known Member

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    You do know he's from an oil family with millions right?
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  3. CyberB0b

    CyberB0b Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    What can I say? Greasy sax man is sexy.
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  4. Roadtrip635

    Roadtrip635 Well-Known Member

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    If JF was somehow still there at 16/17, I would definitely take him. His size may be a concern, but I think his arm and accuracy is underrated by many , he's a leader on the field, plays with passion, plays well in big games and make people around him better. I really think those intangibles outweigh the concern about the lack of his prototypical size. Even coming out of high school he was told he wasn't big enough to play at the next level, I think that just fuels his desire to succeed. NFL ain't college, but I think he has the tools to succeed. Ask Mack Brown if he wishes he would have offered a QB scholarship to JF, if he had, Mack would still be coaching at UT.
  5. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    they both have better arms and are built more sturdily as well
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  6. KB1122

    KB1122 Well-Known Member

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    If Manziel or any other new quarterback is the real thing, then you won't have to worry about him rotting on the bench for three or four years. It doesn't work that way. He will start by the end of season 2.
  7. Lonestar94

    Lonestar94 Well-Known Member

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    Seems to me like Manziel will be a bust, if he is publically talking about wanting to play for a team in Texas he won't make it IMO. It almost seems like he is begging the Texans to draft him.

    Sounds like someone that needs to grow up and should be willing to play anywhere, even Minnesota in the freezing *** cold.
  8. lostar2009

    lostar2009 Active Member

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    If we could at the least get a return in romo, 2×2nds would be sweet
  9. lostar2009

    lostar2009 Active Member

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    Support? Dude we have been supporting this guy since 2006. 1 playoff win to show for it. Lets face it Romo can not carry this team , he need a strong supporting cast just to make the playoffs.
  10. Clove

    Clove Shrinkage

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    Yeah, the guy who is a Super Bowl champ is probably not your prototypical quarterback. Also, GAMBLE? Yeah, let's remain at 8-8 and be the laughing of all of sports. This undrafted QB experiment should end. It really doesn't matter what QB you get, as long as he can get the job done. Isn't that what we want?

    Every QB pickup is a gamble. Every player you take in the draft is a gamble. We are not close, so now is the time to make a move. Kyle Orton proved that he can play just as good as Romo, yet it takes someone special to win IMPORTANT games. Anyone can throw up numbers in this pass happy league. 300 yard passing games or for chumps. Winning is for the elite. Washington felt like they could get a franchise QB, and RGiii is just in his second year coming off a devastating injury. We still don't know what he's capable of. But you say to me, "hey, we could have gotten this or that for all we spent on RGiii". yet in previous years, with all your draft picks you conservatively used, it still helped you do nothing.

    We're so worried about losing draft picks, but tell me what "MULTIPLE" draft picks have helped us win the Super Bowl or for the sake of being conservative, win more than one playoff game in nearly 20 years? All the players and draft picks over the years have netted us 1 playoff victory. So who cares if we have to "switch" first round picks, give them a 2, next year's first and 3rd to move up to get a great QB, whomever that may be? Who cares? Because no matter who we get, and whether that pick works out or not, it's better than staying mediocre.

    I'm pretty sure I can dig up tons of posts saying next year we're going to be great because we can get this and that in the draft, and what happens? Nothing. We say the same crap every year. EVERY EVERY YEAR!!! We get so excited about the draft to end of 8 and 8. What a miserable football life.

    So I say, you may as well at least try to do something special. Now for someone who goes after a corner and gives up that much, is just DUMB. (jerry jones) but if you give up that for a QB, and you fail, no big deal. You load up, and try again. If you're going to gamble, gamble on a QB.

    Don't complain if you don't try.
  11. lostar2009

    lostar2009 Active Member

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    JF and Dez Bryant, enough said. Dez is a dog and so is JF. We need dogs on this team real bad.
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  12. Clove

    Clove Shrinkage

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    I watched him play a lot this past season and that kid has a strong arm. His pocket awareness is sick!! And if you try to force him the opposite direction, he's even more dangerous throwing against the grain.

    This kid played with 1 lineman, and 1 receiver. Outside of that, he played with trash. He is the definition of carrying a team. Romo needs All-Stars at every position just to make the playoffs, while this kid only needed a lineman and a receiver. My point, you give him a few weapons, and a decent line, not great, but decent line and a decent defense, who knows what he could do. And for the people bringing up the other prototypical quarterbacks out there, who's to say they will do something special?
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  13. Corso

    Corso Well-Known Member

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    Your AVI is the best.
    That man is an American Institution.
    A statue should be made of him.
  14. Corso

    Corso Well-Known Member

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    Hey! Don't rag on the greasy sax man!
    That's Lost Boys, yo!
    80's Icon!
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  15. Corso

    Corso Well-Known Member

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    Whether I agree or disagree (and I'm not saying I disagree)- you are a darn enjoyable read.
    From your passion to your logic(illogic).
    Love your posts, man.
    Don't stop.
  16. Corso

    Corso Well-Known Member

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    Man- as long as you keep that sig- I'm probably going to like every post you make...
    Even the ones we argue over...
    Simply inspiring that you thought of it to begin with.
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  17. CyberB0b

    CyberB0b Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    Thanks.
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  18. Roadtrip635

    Roadtrip635 Well-Known Member

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    That's true, there are a lot of busts at QB that had prototypical size. When it comes down to it, when he's on the field the kid makes things happen and he lay's it all on the field.
  19. Aggie87

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    I believe he said that because he wants to be the first pick in the draft. If Oakland were first he'd be saying the same thing about playing there.

    And I also think he's the type who will want to prove himself afterwards. He's not going to be the next Jamarcus Russell, or Ryan Leaf, whether he ends up failing or not. It won't be for lack of trying.
  20. Zordon

    Zordon Well-Known Member

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    It amazes me how many on this site have no issue whatsoever sticking with the status quo. "Keep Ware, Keep Romo, Keep Witten, Keep Free on a paycut, Give Carter another year, Let Spencer come back for cheap...etc...etc..etc.." It's sickening how so many fans on this site are scared to death of turning the page on this core. I am ready. Trust me, IF Jerry did NOT give Romo that extension, if he made Romo play out his final year of the contract, Manziel would be the draft pick, period. I just wish Jerry would wake up from his brain dead state and realize this core is finished no matter how many ways you try to tinker it. They're damaged goods, they're finished. Bring in JFF and you automatically have the leader we've desperately being wanting since Aikman retired. No more slouching shoulders, whining to teammates, no more "if this is the worst thing that happens to me in my life....". We'd finally have that dawg who would be foaming at the mouth to win games. Someone that Dez can feed off of. Let me stop before I start getting emotional....I'm just sick of this core.

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