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Marcus spears on w/norm at 10:30 to talk dysfunction

Discussion in 'Jerry/Garrett/Rant Zone' started by theebs, Jan 22, 2014.

  1. TonyRomo17

    TonyRomo17 Well-Known Member

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    owell looks like at least 15+ years of mediocrity
  2. zrinkill

    zrinkill Diamond surrounded by trash

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    i have known that for sure since last years draft.
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  3. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    Wait, so Jerry Jones runs everything?!

    Get the heck out.
  4. Bluestang

    Bluestang Well-Known Member

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  5. Chocolate Lab

    Chocolate Lab Run-loving Dino

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    Are you talking about the war room cam and everyone's reaction when they passed on Floyd? Or something else?
  6. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    Well, in fairness, he may not be in tune with the real inner working of the team as some of the people here.

    Now if you don't mind, I have to hop aboard Mr. Rogers' trolley. Go Cowboys!!
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  7. Bluestang

    Bluestang Well-Known Member

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    This franchise, and this group doesn't deserve that definition, is a joke.

    We are poorly led, run, and it's no wonder we get the results we deserve.

    This sucks.
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  8. RXP

    RXP Well-Known Member

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    OK.

    But I think my critique of Ware is still correct. Great player. Not a leader. He'd rather just do his job.

    He shows flashes. Like when he works with Tyron Smith after practice. But he's never been a Sean Lee type. A guy who rallies the troops.

    That's not a criticism of Ware. People can't pretend to be who they're not.
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  9. noshame

    noshame Who wouldn't follow me? Zone Supporter

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    Anybody who watched Hard Knocks way back when knows Jerry calls all the shots.
    If a guy is screwing up in practice,( i.e. running the wrong routes), these coaches can't even threaten them with benching because the players know they'd have to clear it with jerry first.

    Is this team really better than the 5-11 campo years or has parity just brought everybody back to us?
  10. Zordon

    Zordon Well-Known Member

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    Just listening to Ware's post-regular season media session on DC.com. The guy was asked several times what is the problem with the team and what needs to be fixed. His answer every time? "Get healthy, too many injuries"....:rolleyes:
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  11. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    No matter how tiring it is to hear it, it's the truth. You can not have a legitimate discussion about the Dallas Cowboys without Jerry being the focal point.

    Don't hate me for saying it. He's made it that way.
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  12. WoodysGirl

    WoodysGirl Do it for the Vine! Staff Member

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    How enlightening is it when what he's saying isn't new? Other players have said it. He didn't add anything that I found all that interesting or new. Jerry does too much? Check. Players don't think Garrett is in charge? Check. Players lived rob Ryan? Check.

    Same old. Same old.
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  13. WoodysGirl

    WoodysGirl Do it for the Vine! Staff Member

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    Sure you can when "insiders" add more to the discussion. If it's centered on Jerry, then that's all the discussion will be.

    They could at least inquire about player battles,quirks, coaching dynamics. Just to add to the discussion.
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  14. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    Speaking from my perspective, mods probably find the 'Jerry stuff' tedious because it bleeds into and derails otherwise good threads. Also, it's tedious because it's been the case forever, and it isn't going to change in his lifetime, so it's a depressing topic, overall.

    But, personally, I think this is awesome stuff. I love this sort of meaty criticism from someone who really ought to know. Sure, he's got a reason to be a bit inflammatory, but Spears is also a stand-up guy. I have little doubt he's describing what he's observed accurately.

    I have a hard time believing these comments are enlightening to anybody. If Jerry's defended around here, it's usually against some bizarre off-the-wall criticism and not on the score that he meddles in the staff. Jerry himself has been very upfront about how the team is run in that regard. It's also the same stuff that's been said by players--including franchise greats like Darren Woodson--for years. Jerry's always been a mixed bag, and the only question is really 'how many of those things in the bag are chocolates, and how many are turds.'
  15. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    Yeah but that's the problem. Do you want him to make things up just for a breath of fresh air?

    Jerry's the problem. He was the problem last year, this year and he'll be the problem next year. All other discussions about any other aspect of the team is really pointless. Until the Jerry problem is corrected the Cowboys won't win.
  16. Ntegrase96

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    The best thing that could happen is that Garrett gets axed, goes on and has a huge amount of success.

    Maybe then Jerry would be forced to realize that he is the problem.
  17. Future

    Future Intramural Legend

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    I don't think Spears said anything "enlightening." He didn't give one fact that average Joe Cowboys fan couldn't have told you.

    Oh, Jerry walks around practice. WHO KNEW???? Another vanilla interview/report bashing Jerry without anything tangible.
  18. Future

    Future Intramural Legend

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    Woops, missed that lol.
  19. Future

    Future Intramural Legend

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    You can't do that if you obsess over blaming everything on Jerry...
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  20. WoodysGirl

    WoodysGirl Do it for the Vine! Staff Member

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    He doesn't have to.make anything up. Just add more to the discussion...even if the road leads back to jerry, there's a little more meat on the bone to chew on.

    That's all i'm saying.

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