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Mark Clayton Highlight Video!

Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by Dyluke, Mar 29, 2005.

  1. Dyluke

    Dyluke Member

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  2. InmanRoshi

    InmanRoshi Zone Scribe

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    What? Someone who plays in a pro style offense with a Heisman Trophy quarterback has a better highlight video than someone who plays in an run oriented option attack with an option quarterback?

    No Way !!!
  3. Dyluke

    Dyluke Member

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    Please....I'll take production any day of the week over potential.
  4. InmanRoshi

    InmanRoshi Zone Scribe

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    So you were one of those guys last year predicting Rookie of the Year for Reggie Williams, and claiming Roy Williams was overrated.
  5. Dyluke

    Dyluke Member

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    How in the world can you watch Williamson's video and like what you see? #1 Catches with his Body
    #2 Falls down when the wind starts to pick up
    #3 Never caught more than 40 some-odd-passes.
  6. Rack Bauer

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    Who cares who is throwing the ball? Look what Clayton does AFTER the catch. He actually breaks tackles and makes SEVERAL people miss.


    Now THAT was a highlight video. ANd that's coming from someone that HATES Oklahoma.
  7. btcutter

    btcutter Well-Known Member

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    Reminder, 1st round picks should have production+potential. Taking someone for potential should be reserved for day 2.
  8. InmanRoshi

    InmanRoshi Zone Scribe

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    Ah yes, I remember it well...

  9. Dyluke

    Dyluke Member

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    If your saying Troy Williamson = Roy Williams you are greatly mistaken. People actually knew who Roy was during college football season.
  10. InmanRoshi

    InmanRoshi Zone Scribe

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    Different players. Same argument.

    "I don't care about the type of offense he played in, what kind of coaching he had or what kind of QB he had. Great WR's put up huge numbers, no matter what."

    Blah, blah, blah.
  11. Gaede

    Gaede Well-Known Member

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    Damn, why are you guys arguing?

    Mark Clayton's a good player and so is Troy Williamson...I think what Clayton lacks in measureables, he makes up for with production...And the opposite applies to Williamson.
  12. royhitshard

    royhitshard New Member

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    Actually, White wouldn't have won the Heisman if it wasn't for Clayton. You can make all the excuses you want, but the fact is Clayton is a stud!
  13. Rack Bauer

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    OMG. Anyone that says Williamson is in the same class as Roy Williams is completely clueless.
  14. Danny White

    Danny White Winter is Coming

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    Now THOSE are highlights!

    Give me a guy who breaks tackles, goes up for the ball and rips it away from defenders, runs good routes, and has speed.

    Williamson may be 3 inches taller than Mark, but he sure doesn't play like it.

    I'll be physically sick if we take that Williamson guy over Clayton.
  15. Qwickdraw

    Qwickdraw Benched

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    Exactly.
    My man has sick YAC.
    He runs like a RB once he gets the ball.


    Can anyone find a Roddy White highlight clip? (why are these highlight videos so hard to come by? With all of the draft sites and forums dedicated to discussing football prospects, why hasn't someone put together a good archive of videos? I dont get it.)
    I think it's it's very likely that we get one of these 3. (Clayton, Williamson, or White)
  16. Rack Bauer

    Rack Bauer Federal Agent

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    Yeah I'm curious about Roddy White as well.
  17. junk

    junk I've got moxie

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    You know I watched them both and saw good things from both receivers. I was very anti Williamson early for many of the same reasons pointed out, but I also saw him do some very good things in his film. I didn't see any more body catches than I did from Clayton and did see a guy who went up and got the ball with his hands. That one handed catch where he fought off the defender was a terrific catch. Bottom line, I didn't think one highlight video was any more conclusive than the other, they both had their share of big plays.

    Clayton looked like the superior route runner, which I would expect from the scouting reports I had read. He also had much better moves after the catch although I would chalk many of them up to simply terrible tackling and lack of pursuit, but definitely not all.

    Clayton will produce more immediately and is the safer pick. Williamson will need some seasoning and has more bust potential, but has a much higher upside in my opinion.

    The Dallas offense needs explosive playmakers on offense so I wouldn't be opposed to adding either of these guys. Typically, WRs take a year or two to begin having a signficant impact as they learn the nuances of the game. Being behind Key and Glenn (and possibly Morgan) on the depth chart would assure them time to develop. That is why I think it is important to add a WR this year, you can do it without having to rely on that guy immediately.

    I do like Williamson's speed which could be a factor early. Running a deep pattern is pretty easy to pick up and make your mark on the game early.

    Something we don't see in highlight videos is how each stacks up as a run blocker. I would assume that Williamson should be good at this since he comes from a run first offense, but is he? How does Clayton do? What about special teams? Do either of them return punts or kicks?
  18. InmanRoshi

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    The players are different. The morons criticising them for things beyond their control are the same.
  19. btcutter

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    I think Clayton has more YAC in one yr than Williamson has in total yds combined in two.

    To me, Clayton just look more explosive out of cuts and catches the ball with his hands.

    Clayton should be a better prospect than Williamson.
  20. chicago JK

    chicago JK Well-Known Member

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    I figure this is a good place to put this. Here is a an answer from Rob Rang regarding Clayton and Williamson. Rob Rang is one of the better draft guru's out there from NFLdraftscout.com
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    Williamson is a bit raw, but has such tools to work with. With time, he could be the top receiver from this class, but his immediate impact will be strictly as a big play specialist, not the guy who rely on for 3rd down and seven.

    Clayton is what he is. He's a very good athlete, who makes himself a very good receiver with routes and hands. He should be a receiver who is capable of starting immediately and is exactly the type to get open on 3rd and seven, but three years from now Williamson, if he improves as he should, could be one of the real difference-makers in the league.

    What you're really asking though is who would I take.

    Allow me a stumbling analogy. If I have an average income and someone offers me an envelope guaranteed to be filled with $1,000 or five envelopes - four of which have $10 and one that has $10,000, I probably take the one that has the grand and go to Sizzler that night.

    Therefore, if it was me, I'd take Clayton and be happy with the consistent, reliable production.

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