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McCain campaign won't commit to debate on Friday

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  1. WoodysGirl

    WoodysGirl Shut up and play! Staff Member

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    By LIZ SIDOTI, Associated Press Writer
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    WASHINGTON - John McCain's campaign expressed cautious optimism Thursday as congressional Republicans and Democrats agreed in principle on a $700 billion bailout of the financial industry hours before the two presidential candidates were to meet with President Bush on the crisis.

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    Even so, the action didn't appear to be strong enough to convince McCain to attend Friday's scheduled presidential debate. His campaign has said he wouldn't participate unless there was consensus between Congress and the administration, and a spokesman said the afternoon developments had not changed his plans.

    "There's no deal until there's a deal. We're optimistic but we want to get this thing done," McCain spokesman Brian Rogers said.

    Obama still wants the face-off to go on, and is slated to travel to the debate site in Mississippi on Friday.

    The debate over the debate is the latest campaign twist as McCain and Obama try to navigate the uncharted politics of the financial meltdown and show leadership at a time of national angst.

    "With so much on the line, for America and the world, the debate that matters most right now is taking place in the United States Capitol — and I intend to join it," McCain said after addressing former President Clinton's Global Initiative in New York on Thursday before heading to Washington.

    Obama argued the debate should proceed because a president needs to be able to handle more than one issue at a time.

    "Our election is in 40 days. Our economy is in crisis, and our nation is fighting two wars abroad. The American people deserve to hear directly from myself and Sen. McCain about how we intend to lead our country. The times are too serious to put our campaign on hold, or to ignore the full range of issues that the next president will face."

    In Oxford, Miss., debate organizers continued to prepare.

    At a news conference, Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour, a Republican, said he expected the presidential debate to go ahead, though he said he had no inside information. "This is going to be a great debate tomorrow night. We're excited about it," Barbour said.

    Television networks, too, were moving forward. "We're proceeding as if it's on and will until someone tells us that it's not," ABC spokeswoman Cathie Levine said.

    The two candidates spoke to the Clinton Global Initiative — McCain in person, Obama via satellite — before the meeting in Washington with Bush and House and Senate leaders from both parties. One of them is certain to inherit the economic mess, including the aftermath of the unprecedented plan to rescue the financial sector.

    Presidential politics was running smack into the delicate negotiations over how to stop further weakening the sagging economy without putting an enormous new burden on taxpayers or rewarding corporations or their executives who share the blame for the woes.

    On Capitol Hill, Democratic and Republican negotiators emerged from a closed-door meeting to report an agreement in principle. They said they would present it to the Bush administration in hopes of a vote within days.

    Rogers said McCain didn't participate in that meeting, but was in talks with Republican leaders afterward. Conservative Republicans were among the holdouts, and there were indications they were waiting for McCain to make a move before they did.

    As Thursday began, McCain said he didn't believe the administration's plan had the votes to pass without changes. "We are running out of time," McCain said. However, he said he still was confident a bipartisan compromise could be reached before markets open on Monday, one that would stabilize the markets, protect taxpayers and homeowners and "earn the confidence of the American people."

    He again portrayed his announced halt to campaign events, fundraising and advertising as an example of putting the country ahead of politics. But in doing so he also hoped to get political credit for a decisive step on a national crisis as polls show him trailing Obama on the economy and slipping in the presidential race.

    Despite McCain's stated campaigning hiatus, his running mate, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, paid a highly visible visit to memorials in lower Manhattan to those killed in the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

    Democrats derided McCain's claim to have halted his campaign as a political stunt, though Obama himself didn't go that far.

    For his part, Obama urged a swift resolution that would get the legislation passed, saying "action must be taken to restore confidence in our economy ... Now is a time to come together — Democrats and Republicans — in a spirit of cooperation on behalf of the American people."

    Obama also rolled out a new 60-second TV ad to run in "key targeted states" in which he cited economic policies endorsed by Bush and McCain as essentially to blame for the troubles.

    "For eight years we've been told that the way to a stronger economy was to give huge tax breaks to corporations and the wealthiest. Cut oversight on Wall Street. And somehow all Americans would benefit," Obama says in the ad. "Well now we know the truth. Instead of prosperity tricking down, the pain has trickled up. We need to change direction. Now."

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/candidates_financial_meltdown
  2. canters

    canters Active Member

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    Still think the debate will go ahead as planned. McCain is waiting for the right time to ride in on the white horse.
  3. ConcordCowboy

    ConcordCowboy Mr. Buckeye

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    Yeah this is a man who admitted three days ago that he hadn't even read the bailout plan and now in less than a day he saved the day?

    :laugh2:
  4. canters

    canters Active Member

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    All part of the game, my friend. All part of the game.
  5. Sasquatch

    Sasquatch Lost in the Woods

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    "To debate or not to debate."

    Steady, single-minded, and unswerving leadership.

    Hamlet/Palin '08.
  6. canters

    canters Active Member

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    McCain'a ability to learn material quickly is a good reason to vote for him guys.;)
  7. ConcordCowboy

    ConcordCowboy Mr. Buckeye

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    Yeah he learned real quick that his poll numbers were dropping like a rock.

    :p:
  8. canters

    canters Active Member

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    You guys take this stuff too seriously...the sun will come up the day after the election no matter who wins.
  9. ABQCOWBOY

    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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    Come on CC. As of today, the polls represent 49% Obama vs 46% McCain with a plus or minus of 4% varience.

    This whole issue of the economy is making McCains numbers slide is not really true. They are ceratinly not helping him but he's also not in a free fall.

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...ial_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

    In fact, and this to me is interesting, according to public opinion, only 28% of voters support this bailout plan. McCain is on record as not in favor of this plan, as it was originally proposed. A great deal is still in play and I think it's a mistake to say that McCain is in poor shape and so that's why he doesn't want to debate. It simply does not hold water, IMO.

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...business/only_28_support_federal_bailout_plan
  10. ConcordCowboy

    ConcordCowboy Mr. Buckeye

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    It is most certainly true.

    I don't care if it's a free fall or not.

    It's been a bad two weeks for McCain and the polls show it.
  11. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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    Lastest electoral college polls are not showing a free fall and McCain has the lead in some of the main swing states and has a couple of other states in play as the margin has narrowed. Asking 1 question and getting a response does not show how people will vote on election day. As I have said before I don't put to much faith in polls because like the wind direction they change so the only numbers that will matter are the real numbers as they count the ballot in state by state on election day.
  12. canters

    canters Active Member

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    Don't count your ckicks,,,according to realclearpolitics.com, they are still very close....the two polls that have Barry up over the MOE sampled smalled groups, so throw them out.....matter of fact, the CBS sample was way over represented by Dems...so it is bogus.

    This will be vary close to the end. Plus, no one knows the extent to which the Bradley/Wilder effect will enter into this.
  13. ABQCOWBOY

    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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    The two weeks are not over as yet CC. However, if they were, I would simply point out that two weeks does not make a campaign. There is a lot of time left before election and things are most certainly going to change. Perhaps for the better, perhaps for the worst. I don't know but I do no that this is long from over and all of these reports that say McCain is trailing badly are bogus. There is no substantiating proof to support that.

    If it makes you feel better to say it, that's fine. I like whistling Oh Danny Boy. That usually makes me feel better for whatever reason.

    ;)
  14. ConcordCowboy

    ConcordCowboy Mr. Buckeye

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    Polls to ME mean nothing at this point.

    But it's always nice to be in the lead.

    To McCain and Obama they do.

    McCain was ahead two weeks ago and had all the momentum...then we know what happened.

    Now he's lost the lead and the momentum.

    Doesn't mean something won't happen for him to get it back.
  15. ABQCOWBOY

    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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    Two weeks before that he was trailing by 10 points. This thing is not over CC.
  16. ConcordCowboy

    ConcordCowboy Mr. Buckeye

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    I never said it was over or even that the race won't be close, because it will.

    Just saying that McCain took a look at the switch in the polls in the last two weeks and went...:omg:
  17. ConcordCowboy

    ConcordCowboy Mr. Buckeye

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    Never said it's over...and like I said in my other post...something could happen to put McCain right back on top.

    BUT I do without a doubt think that McCain's camp looked at the switch in the polls in the last two weeks and went holy jeeezus...we have to do some Drama Queen stuff here.

    Because it was the economy that caused the switch in the polls...I don't think there's really any question about that.
  18. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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    These numbers have moved slightly there was never a big lead and chances are the numbers will stay about what they are right now fluctuating 1 or 2 points depending on the polls you look at. This is going to be a close race and will be decided by 1% or 2% in some of the key swing states.
  19. ABQCOWBOY

    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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    Well, don't look now but the latest Gallup Poll has Obama and McCain tied with 46%.

    Now, this whole perception that he's not debating because he's down in the polls can die a quick death if he still elects to postpone the debate.
  20. ConcordCowboy

    ConcordCowboy Mr. Buckeye

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    Did I mention that I hate the Gallup Poll?

    :p:

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