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McShay/Kiper 1st round mocks V.2 2/7/13....

Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by Risen Star, Feb 7, 2013.

  1. jterrell

    jterrell Penguinite

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    Yea, I think he is a 25-35 guy.

    I'd be fine with him after a trade down but would question him heavily at 18.

    For value I have selected him in mocks at 47 but new info moved him up past that point:(

    In the thread about him where xwalker linked us the LSU game you can see why he is steadily moving up. He handled speed rushers quite well and found ways to get involved in plays even away from him.

    There was never any push in his area and in short yardage he flat moved guys.

    My main concern would be keeping him from getting any bigger and really working on his agility and conditioning. But much easier to do that than to add 200 pounds of leg strength to David Arkin.
  2. jnday

    jnday Well-Known Member

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    I liked the Carter pick more than the Tyron pick. For the last half of his rookie season, Tyron was proving me wrong. This year the same faults came up with Tyron that made me not want to draft him with the 9th pick.
  3. StanleySpadowski

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    Don't say "we". I hated the Smith pick, liked the Carter one and was so-so on Murray due to durability issues but thought he had value at that spot.
  4. big dog cowboy

    big dog cowboy THE BIG DOG Staff Member

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    Luckily we won't have to worry about that.
  5. TheKey

    TheKey Faster than Felix

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    I wouldn't be so sure about that. If he is there, I hope we take him.
  6. Rack Bauer

    Rack Bauer Federal Agent

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    I don't know why anyone would hope for such a thing.


    I hope he isn't there, that way it gives the possibility of pushing another good player to 18.
  7. dfense

    dfense Well-Known Member

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    I still remember a couple years ago Kyper got every single first round pick wrong. All 32 teams. 100% inaccuracy takes talent.
  8. DFWJC

    DFWJC Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    In these playoffs, you could argue the Olines that played the best were in the Super Bowl game.
    The Ravens made that adjustment and then it all came together--almost everyone is marveling at how well that Oline played. And we all already know how good SF's oline was.
  9. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    That's news to me.

    Did you dream it?
  10. newlander

    newlander Well-Known Member

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    ...we are NOT taking a safety at 18 nor should we. My top 3 for need and want at 18 are:

    1) Richardson: no brainer
    2) Warmack: awesome if he's there
    3)FLuker: move him to guard and he should be a younger version of Leonard Davis IMO and crush people (but in a crunch he could also be your swing Right Tackle
  11. jterrell

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    You "could" make that argument but it would be complete drivel.

    Flacco and CK played tremendous to get to the SB. The Ravens and 49ers gave up high sack totals and high QB hit totals.

    The Ravens were 10th out of 12 teams in rushing yards per attempt in the post-season. SF did finish 1st but would have been middle of the pack minus CK's scrambles.

    Minny, SEA, ATL can all claim to have better OLs than BMore especially.
  12. KB1122

    KB1122 Well-Known Member

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    If Smith is rated highly enough to go #8, then he will probably go #1.
  13. LatinMind

    LatinMind iPhotoshop

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    I dont see how you see him being a RG.
  14. xwalker

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    I don't get that either. He is an LG in college...

    Larry Allen spent most of his time at LG.

    If Parnell is the RT, they're not going to want to put a rookie next to him.
  15. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    love all the excuses to ignore the O line
  16. LatinMind

    LatinMind iPhotoshop

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    Yeah i dont get that either, every yr from Training Camp til the season ends people complain about the OL. But when the offseason comes they make every excuse to disreguard it.
  17. DFWJC

    DFWJC Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    And for someone to say that SF and Baltimore's lines were not very good in the playoffs is really a reach. I sure would not call 1.25 and 1.5 sacks per game a lot of sacks given the competition they were facing. I mean, the eye test should have been enough...but it's not really worth arguing the point.

    The main point is that we've been outmanned for a while now at the LOS and we are going nowhere without addressing it.

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