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McShay top 32/Kiper big board 11/21/12....

Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by Risen Star, Nov 27, 2012.

  1. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    * - underclassman

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    McShay

    http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draf...-draft-linemen-continue-shine-latest-rankings

    1. Jarvis Jones* OLB Georgia
    2. Star Lotulelei DT Utah
    3. Chance Warmack G Alabama
    4. Manti Te'o ILB Notre Dame
    5. Damontre Moore* DE Texas A&M

    6. Luke Joeckel* T Texas A&M
    7. Johnathan Hankins* DT Ohio St.
    8. Barkevious Mingo* DE LSU
    9. Sylvester Williams DT North Carolina
    10. Bjoern Werner* DE Florida St.

    11. Dee Milliner* CB Alabama
    12. Jonathan Cooper G North Carolina
    13. Cornellius Carradine DE Florida St.
    14. Dion Jordan DE Oregon
    15. Johnathan Jenkins DT Georgia

    16. Geno Smith QB West Virginia
    17. Taylor Lewan* T Michigan
    18. Sam Montgomery* DE LSU
    19. Alec Ogletree* ILB Georgia
    20. Kenny Vaccaro S Texas

    21. Corey Lemonier* DE Auburn
    22. Eric Fisher T Central Michigan
    23. Ezekiel Ansah* DE BYU
    24. Matt Barkley QB USC
    25. Sheldon Richardson DT Missouri

    26. Justin Hunter* WR Tennessee
    27. Kawann Short DT Purdue
    28. Keenan Allen* WR California
    29. Dallas Thomas T Tennessee
    30. Zach Ertz* TE Stanford
    31. Johnthan Banks CB Mississippi St.
    32. Tavon Austin WR West Virginia

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    Kiper

    http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/stor...aft-anthony-barr-ucla-new-big-board-additions

    1. Jarvis Jones* OLB Georgia
    2. Manti Te'o ILB Notre Dame
    3. Star Lotulelei DT Utah
    4. Damontre Moore* DE Texas A&M
    5. Luke Joeckel* T Texas A&M

    6. Barkevious Mingo* DE LSU
    7. Chance Warmack G Alabama
    8. Taylor Lewan* T Michigan
    9. Johnathan Hankins* DT Ohio St.
    10. Bjoern Werner* DE Florida St.

    11. Dee Milliner* CB Alabama
    12. Cordarrelle Patterson* WR Tennessee
    13. Jonathan Cooper G North Carolina
    14. Alec Ogletree* ILB Georgia
    15. Anthony Barr* OLB UCLA

    16. Sam Montgomery* DE LSU
    17. Kenny Vaccaro S Texas
    18. Tyler Eifert* TE Notre Dame
    19. Cornellius Carradine DE Florida St.
    20. Sheldon Richardson* DT Missouri

    21. Eric Fisher T Central Michigan
    22. Johnathan Jenkins DT Georgia
    23. Khaseem Greene OLB Rutgers
    24. Matt Barkley QB USC
    25. Geno Smith QB West Virginia
  2. RS12

    RS12 Well-Known Member

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    Lets say this is our spot. What do you do? O Line or D Line.
  3. tm1119

    tm1119 Well-Known Member

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    So what exactly is McShay's fascination with Slyvester Williams? Hes a nice player and everything, but #9 seems a bit ridiculous.

    And the more I look at this 1st round the more I don't like it. Just not a whole lot of options in the 11-18 range that we are likely to land.
  4. xwalker

    xwalker Well-Known Member

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    Trade down to #29 and pick Dallas Thomas and get an extra 2nd round pick.

    Look for one of the following to "fall" to the 2nd round:
    Anthony Barr
    Ezekiel Ansah
    Corey Lemonier

    or one of the injured players in the 2nd or later:
    Tank Carradine
    Brandon Jenkins
    Quanterus Smith

    Use the other 2nd round pick on Khalad Holmes.
  5. the_h0wey

    the_h0wey Well-Known Member

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    I like this idea. We need as many picks as we can get. That is why this years draft was so frustrating. Jerry seems to think we are one player away, and I like Claiborne, but we need help at multiple positions.
  6. robert70x7

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    Compilation

    1. Jarvis Jones
    2. Star Lotulelei
    3. Manti Te'o
    4. Damontre Moore
    5. Chance Warmack
    6. Luke Joeckel
    7. Barkevious Mingo
    8. Johnathan Hankins
    9. Bjoern Werner
    10. Dee Milliner
    11. Jonathan Cooper
    12. Taylor Lewan
    13. Tank Carradine
    14. Alec Ogletree
    15. Sam Montgomery
    16. Sylvester Williams
    17. John Jenkins
    18. Kenny Vacarro
    19. Dion Jordan
    20. Geno Smith
    21. Eric Fisher
    22. Sheldon Richardson
    23. Cordarelle Patterson
    24. Matt Barkley
    25. Corey Lemonier
    26. Anthony Barr
    27. Ezekiel Ansah
    28. Tyler Eifert
    29. Justin Hunter
    30. Kawaan Short
    31. Khaseem Greene
    32. Keenan Allen
    33. Dallas Thomas
    34. Zach Ertz
    35. Johnathan Banks
    36. Tavon Austin
    Dropped from Rankings - Jake Matthews, DJ Fluker, Robert Woods, Bennie Logan
  7. jnday

    jnday Well-Known Member

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    If a trade-back would have took place last year, Osemele and Cordy Glenn could have been Cowboys and the oline would be much better. They still would have another pick after taking these two. The Mo trade is not looking too good IMO.
  8. the_h0wey

    the_h0wey Well-Known Member

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    I agree with you 100%
  9. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    The QBs are dropping like bombs. I expect that will change once they work out. Not that it should change, but it will. They always get overdrafted.
  10. robert70x7

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    1. Jarvis Jones
    2. Star Lotulelei
    3. Manti Te'o
    4. Damontre Moore
    5. Chance Warmack
    6. Luke Joeckel
    7. Barkevious Mingo
    8. Johnathan Hankins
    9. Bjoern Werner
    10. Dee Milliner
    11. Jonathan Cooper (12)
    12. Taylor Lewan (13)
    13. Tank Carradine (16)
    14. Alec Ogletree (15)
    15. Sam Montgomery (14)
    16. Sylvester Williams (20)
    17. John Jenkins (18)
    18. Kenny Vacarro (19)
    19. Dion Jordan (21)
    20. Geno Smith (11)
    21. Eric Fisher (NR)
    22. Sheldon Richardson
    23. Cordarelle Patterson (NR)
    24. Matt Barkley (17)
    25. Corey Lemonier (24)
    26. Anthony Barr (NR)
    27. Ezekiel Ansah
    28. Tyler Eifert (25)
    29. Justin Hunter (26)
    30. Kawaan Short (29)
    31. Khaseem Greene (28)
    32. Keenan Allen (23)
    33. Dallas Thomas (31)
    34. Zach Ertz (33)
    35. Johnathan Banks (34)
    36. Tavon Austin (NR)
    Dropped from Rankings - Jake Matthews (30), DJ Fluker (32), Robert Woods (35), Bennie Logan (36)
  11. visionary

    visionary Well-Known Member

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    i've said this a million times

    not just osemele and glenn, we could have had decastro since he didnt go until 22

    jerry likes the shiny toys
  12. DBOY3141

    DBOY3141 Well-Known Member

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    We should have stayed put and took Brockers and Konz. Both lines need help. This year take Mingo and and trade up in the 2nd and take Thomas.

    OL - Smith/Livings/Konz/Thomas/Parnell
    DL - Crawford/Brockers/Mingo - Lissmore/Brent/Hatcher

    We would be a lot further along. But with the worst GM in the history of football, we will always end up with shiny toys vs a quality football team.
  13. dfense

    dfense Well-Known Member

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    Either
  14. Manwiththeplan

    Manwiththeplan Well-Known Member

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    You call Jerry Jones the worst GM in the history of football and then suggest playing the 6-5 240 pound Mingo as a DE in a 3-4?
  15. Boys122

    Boys122 Well-Known Member

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    I'm with ya there.

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