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McShay top 32/Kiper big board 11/7/12....

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  1. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    * - underclassman

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    McShay

    http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draf...aft-big-names-moving-latest-prospect-rankings

    1. Star Lotulelei DT Utah
    2. Jarvis Jones* OLB Georgia
    3. Manti Te'o ILB Notre Dame
    4. Change Warmack G Alabama
    5. Damontre Moore* DE Texas A&M

    6. Bjoern Werner* DE Florida St.
    7. Barkevious Mingo* DE LSU
    8. Luke Joeckel* T Texas A&M
    9. Geno Smith QB West Virginia
    10. Jonathan Cooper G North Carolina

    11. Sylvester Williams DT North Carolina
    12. Johnathan Hankins* DT Ohio St.
    13. Dion Jordan DE Oregon
    14. Dee Milliner* CB Alabama
    15. Cornellius Carradine DE Florida St.

    16. Johnathan Jenkins DT Georgia
    17. Alec Ogletree* ILB Georgia
    18. Sam Montgomery* DE LSU
    19. Matt Barkley QB USC
    20. Sheldon Richardson DT Missouri

    21. Corey Lemonier* DT Auburn
    22. Justin Hunter* WR Tennessee
    23. Kenny Vaccaro S Texas
    24. Dallas Thomas T Tennessee
    25. Robert Woods* WR USC

    26. Zach Ertz* TE Stanford
    27. Kawann Short DT Purdue
    28. Keenan Allen* WR California
    29. Johnthan Banks CB Alabama
    30. Bennie Logan* DT LSU
    31. Shariff Floyd* DT Florida
    32. Taylor Lewan* T Michigan

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    Kiper

    http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8601299/2013-nfl-draft-quarterback-class-big-question-mark

    1. Jarvis Jones* OLB Georgia
    2. Manti Te'o ILB Notre Dame
    3. Star Lotulelei DT Utah
    4. Damontre Moore* DE Texas A&M
    5. Luke Joeckel* T Texas A&M

    6. Chance Warmack G Alabama
    7. Johnathan Hankins* DT Ohio St.
    8. Dee Milliner* CB Alabama
    9. Taylor Lewan* T Michigan
    10. Bjoern Werner* DE Florida St.

    11. Matt Barkley QB USC
    12. Geno Smith QB West Virginia
    13. Barkevious Mingo* DE LSU
    14. Sam Montgomery* DE LSU
    15. Johnathan Jenkins DT Georgia

    16. Sheldon Richardson* DT Missouri
    17. Sylvester Williams DT North Carolina
    18. Eric Fisher T Central Michigan
    19. Shariff Floyd* DT Florida
    20. Cornellius "Tank" Carradine DE Florida St.

    21. Jake Matthews* T Texas A&M
    22. Terrance Williams WR Baylor
    23. Johnathan Cooper G North Carolina
    24. Keenan Allen* WR California
    25. Justin Hunter* WR Tennessee
  2. Manwiththeplan

    Manwiththeplan Well-Known Member

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    i don't see how anyone couldn't have teo as the #1 defensive player
  3. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Brotherhood of the Beard Staff Member

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    I see nothing wrong with Jarvis Jones as #1.

    Both are studs on the field.
  4. Manwiththeplan

    Manwiththeplan Well-Known Member

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    he is good, and Star Lotulelei is the prospect I want the most in 2013, but Manti Te'o is the best of the group imo.

    Reguardless I think it goes without saying this draft will be very heavy on defense.
  5. Yeagermeister

    Yeagermeister Active Member

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    I'll take the guard or tackle
  6. RS12

    RS12 Well-Known Member

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    Watch Jerry trade the entire draft for one of em and ignore everything else again.
  7. JackWagon

    JackWagon Well-Known Member

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    Frankly I wouldnt put it past him.
  8. joseephuss

    joseephuss Well-Known Member

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    I don't see how anyone from the Texas defense is on that list, especially Vaccaro.
  9. rkell87

    rkell87 Well-Known Member

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    vaccaro is playing well, the problem is they are exploiting phillips who has been worse than garbage so kenny hasn't had much impact as they are avoiding him
  10. DBOY3141

    DBOY3141 Well-Known Member

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    Chance Womack in the 1st
    Jake Matthews in the 2nd

    Fix the OL and lets move on.
  11. joseephuss

    joseephuss Well-Known Member

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    I just don't see it that way.
  12. Manwiththeplan

    Manwiththeplan Well-Known Member

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    I may get stoned to death for saying this, but I'm actually okay with Doug Free. He's played well the last few weeks after a rough start that I attribute to all 5 o-linemen playing in a different spot as last year.

    Add an inside push and I actually think he can play at the level his contract reflects.
  13. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    I had to open a window after that post.
  14. RS12

    RS12 Well-Known Member

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    I'd love that. Never happen though.
  15. tm1119

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    Richardson, Montgomery, and Warmack seem like the early favorites in my book that would be available where we are currently slotted.

    And put me in the Doug Free supporter category too by the way. Fix the interior of the line and our tackles would look 10x better. If Romo could actually step up in the pocket we would be ok.
  16. robert70x7

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    Averaged both rankings. This is about all I can contribute to this.

    1. Jarvis Jones
    2. Star Lotulelei
    3. Manti Te'o
    4. Damontre Moore
    5. Chance Warmack
    6. Luke Joeckel
    7. Bjoern Werner
    8. Johnathan Hankins
    9. Barkevious Mingo
    10. Geno Smith
    11. Dee Milliner
    12. Sylvester Williams
    13. Matt Barkley
    14. Johnathan Jenkins
    15. Sam Montgomery
    16. Jonathan Cooper
    17. Cornelius Carradine
    18. Sheldon Richardson
    19. Dion Jordan
    20. Taylor Lewan
    21. Alec Ogletree
    22. Justin Hunter
    23. Corey Lemonier
    24. Shariff Floyd
    25. Eric Fisher
    26. Keenan Allen
    27. Kenny Vacarro
    28. Dallas Thomas
    29. Jake Matthews
    30. Robert Woods
    31. Terrance Williams
    32. Zach Ertz
    33. Kawaan Short
    34. Johnathan Banks
    35. Bennie Logan
  17. RS12

    RS12 Well-Known Member

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    Moore would be a nice fit in Dallas IMO. Just makes plays. At 6-4 250 I could see him either at Spencers position or bulking up at DE with pass rush ability. Plays the run and rush the passer.
  18. Macnalty

    Macnalty Active Member

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    Robert is this your list or from another site? If so what site, I have a hard time putting Vacarro in the first round after watching the OU game and Baylor track meet. I am in agreement with the rest of the crew although truth be known there are about five I do not recognize. The top twenty I know. My son tells me Jeffcoat over Okafor but once again watch the OU game. Guess I am down on Texas after watching four of there games. the kid from Florida State Bjoren Werner is sneaking up like JJ Watts did a couple of years ago.
  19. robert70x7

    robert70x7 Active Member

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    I combined both McShay's and Kiper's rankings and averaged them out.
  20. robert70x7

    robert70x7 Active Member

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    Edited the list from above and indicated 'risers' and 'fallers'

    1. Jarvis Jones
    2. Star Lotulelei
    3. Manti Te'o
    4. Damontre Moore
    5. Chance Warmack
    6. Luke Joeckel
    7. Bjoern Werner
    8. Johnathan Hankins
    9. Barkevious Mingo
    10. Geno Smith
    11. Dee Milliner
    12. Sylvester Williams
    13. Matt Barkley
    14. Johnathan Jenkins
    15. Sam Montgomery
    16. Jonathan Cooper
    17. Cornelius Carradine
    18. Sheldon Richardson
    19. Dion Jordan
    20. Taylor Lewan
    21. Alec Ogletree
    22. Justin Hunter
    23. Corey Lemonier
    24. Shariff Floyd
    25. Eric Fisher
    26. Keenan Allen
    27. Kenny Vacarro
    28. Dallas Thomas
    29. Jake Matthews
    30. Robert Woods
    31. Terrance Williams
    32. Zach Ertz
    33. Kawaan Short
    34. Johnathan Banks
    35. Bennie Logan
    Edited for rankings. Green = Rising, Red = Falling

    Biggest Rise - Dion Jordan - DE, Oregon
    Biggest Fall - Barkevious Mingo - DE, LSU and Keenan Allen - WR, California

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