Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by Corleone, Mar 18, 2014.
That would make him God.
Gives us more flexibility in round one.
Outside of Clowney there are no DE’s worth a 1st IMO.
DE wise there are better value options in the middle rounds, so we could go BPA in round one (Donald may still be BPA although I think it’s less likely we pick him even if he’s available).
I didn't see anything reported that the Jones' "refused" anything or were the ones who came up with this somewhat unique contract.
I always believe in giving credit where it's due, but this isn't a deal the Jones' came up with, which was my point.
I would like to see the details of the deal but on it's face Jerry I mean the Cowboys did a great job of getting him on a 1 year deal with an option to keep him over the next 3. I figured this would cost much more but somehow the Cowboys managed. I thought no one wanted to play for Dallas unless we over paid. lol
Jerry either signs off on it or he doesn't so yes he has final say on it. Regardless if people want to give him credit or not.
Anyone know the figures on this yet
Was that at UT?
I remember seeing him run over people as a FB. He must eat like Nate Newton, though, 'cause he just wouldn't stop growing.
The good thing is he really thinks he's gonna hit those numbers or he wouldn't have agreed to a trial year. If we activate the option and sign smith/Dez, I don't see us getting any of those sexy '15 FAs though
I'm glad you were able to work that out.
When you get numbers start another thread.
I don't really see how this is such a great contract for the Cowboys. If I understand this correctly, he can make up to 5 Million this season, which is reasonable but after that, the team has a 9 Million Guaranteed commitment to him in 2015, if we want to keep after that first year, 9 Million Guaranteed and roughly 7.5 in each of the next two seasons. That is the 3rd highest salary for a DT in the NFL right now.
If Melton plays really well, then I can see the value there but honestly, this is a two year deal, if he plays well. Hatcher got a 4 year 27.5 Million deal with a 9 Mil Signing Bonus and a 1.5 Base salary for the 2014 season. 10.5 Mil guaranteed. 3 Mil in 2015, 6.5 in 2016 and 7.5 in 2017. Basically, a one year deal with option years that are all significantly cheaper then what we have with Melton.
I get it that Melton is younger and that might be of value but he's also coming off major injury. Honestly, in a 1 or two year deal, I don't see how signing Hatcher would not have been the better financial deal. More up front but the over all contract for Hatcher is better, especially if you are going to keep him more then just a single season.
I meant that it's ironic that the Bears would let Melton walk but sign Ratliff mid season last year.
My guess is that they restructure and extend him if he plays lights out. Anything short of that and I think he is gone. Also, by the time those last few years kick in, it won't be the 3rd highest contract for a DT. Heck, it may not even be top 10 by then.
Again, I like the 1 year deal up front. Smart.
From talking to more Bears fans this morning I keep hearing the same quote my friend wrote to me yesterday..."he's pretty good if he is motivated...and that is a big if." I'd think this one year would be motivation. But once the other 3 kick in..is motivation gone? Just things running through my head.
Doesn't matter. In year 2, it will still be among the highest paid contracts in the NFL. You can restructure but all that is doing is guaranteeing money in out years, above and beyond what we already owe. What are the odds that if we restructure in out years, the salary goes down? It wont, because as you have already stated, the salaries across the board are going to keep going up so basically, if we decide to keep him, it's going to be more expensive with more guaranteed out year money.
No matter how I look at this, the better contract was the one the Skins signed with Hatcher, IMO.
I'm glad you're glad.