Discussion in 'NFL Zone' started by Idgit, Sep 6, 2013.
Well, this doesn't sound good for Eagles fans. I hope they get it sorted out.
What's there to respect about Vick?
I will say, though, that the battered fan in me worries about that offense...
he killed dogs as a hobby...how is he not surprised with the lack of respect?
Whatever the reasons, “I try to be the peacemaker,” said Vick, “but these young dudes don’t respect me" doesn't sound too good going into week one in PHI. I hope it shows up on the field.
So what you're saying is you're rooting for the Redskins?
Unlike some other posters I dont see the need to continue to punish the guy for a crime he served his time for, I applaud Vick for his personal and career turn around. Eagles have a bunch of knuckle heads though so his comments aren't surprising.
Can they both lose?
Honestly, I kind of am rooting for the Sk*ns this week. I'd like to see PHI not be very impressive in Kelly's debut. I know you guys are going to be good and be there at the end of the year. I'd rather see a two-way race than a 3 or 4 way one.
Also, I have to admit, I like watching RGIII play football. He's a fun guy to watch. Looking forward to a real old-fashioned Cowboys-and-Indians rivalry this season if we can both hold up our ends of the deal.
Yeah I really hate Philly--not just the team--everything about the city and its people. Really--it's like every degenerate douchebag decided to congregate in one city.
I think the only thing keeping the Redskins and Cowboys from playing for the division is health and the adjustment to the 4-3 for the Boys. I think the Boys are better than the Giants.
Good thing Tony doesn't say dumb things like this.
Hopefully Philly has a complete locker room collapse that drags that team down for years to come.
He's still a punk. Just got better PR.
What a load of bunk........
The NFL giving him a second chance had more to do with his "magical turnaround" then anything. If you, I or any other Joey Potatoes on the street had committed the atrocities he did we would even have a hard time getting a job sacking groceries at the local five and dime.
Please enlighten us as to how what he said was dumb in any way?
He has a valid point. He's a leader on that team, but they have some young punks like Williams who don't respect anyone, let alone the team leaders.
My question is.. where is all the hub bub about Williams using a racial slur in a confrontation with Riley Cooper the other day?
Will he be fined by the team for using the word like Riley was?
When I was 15 I might have robbed you down to your drawers. People change. Vick's a model for any athlete who has been in serious trouble to get their career going back on the right track. Sometimes all people need is for someone to reach back and give them a second chance.
Forget the crime he served. He just isn't a good QB. He is inaccurate and makes poor decisions. Teammates eventually lose respect in a guy when he can't produce.
Not like they have a better option on their roster.
He had over 100 passer rating just two years ago.. and 85 the year after that. Last season was really the first time he's struggled alot recently, and before he got injured he was running for his life all year behind the worst OL in football (yes, worse than ours).
I don't think he's lost it yet.. and even if he has, the problem has nothing to do with his skill at CB. It has to do with young punks not respecting their teammates in that locker room.
No, not really.
He went to jail over that stuff because he was famous, not the other way around.
That is not at all condoning it, just stating the facts.
He was made an example of. And in thruth, someone needed to be made and example of becasue it we becoming so common nationwide to run dog fighting rings.
But nevertheless, he was the one that took the fall. My guess in that in US hisotry, nobody has served more time (and certainloy not lost more money) for the offense he committed.
Plain and simple.
I don't consider an 84.9 passer rating to be good. It is average. His 2010 season was 3 seasons ago and is easily the outlier to his career where he has a 80.6 passer rating. His 2012 season is more in line with his career as whole. He hasn't lost it. He just was never that good to begin with. The Eagles may indeed be full of young punks, but Vick is no kind of leader based on his inconsistent performance.
If anybody saw the clip of the fight, Vick and D Jax had to be the voices of reason and calm everything down lol
That indicates that the leadership roles on that team are in a pretty poor state.