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More on the pirate situation

Discussion in 'Political Zone' started by sacase, Apr 20, 2009.

  1. sacase

    sacase Well-Known Member

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    I can't verify this since I got it in a email, so I am not going to try to pretend that it is true or false. It does however address some questions I had knowing what resources we had in the area were, as well as some of the questions I had as to why they didn't shoot sooner. I always felt that the imminent danger because he had an AK pointed at him was a weak excuse. I am personally leaning towards this to be true but I could be wrong. So with that said enjoy...

    Having spoken to some SEAL pals here in Virginia Beach yesterday and asking why this thing dragged out for 4 days, I got the following:

    1. BHO (Barack H. Obama) wouldn't authorize the DEVGRU/NSWC SEAL teams to the scene for 36 hours going against OSC (On Scene Commander) recommendation.
    2. Once they arrived, BHO imposed restrictions on their ROE (Rules of Engagement) that they couldn't do anythingunless the hostage's life was in "imminent" danger
    3. The first time the hostage jumped overboard, the SEALS had the raggies all sighted in, but could not fire due to ROE restriction.
    4. When the navy RIB (small seal boat) came under fire as it approached with supplies, no fire was returned due to ROE restrictions. As the raggies were shooting at the RIB, they were exposed and the SEALS had them all dialed in.
    5. BHO specifically denied two rescue plans developed by the Bainbridge CPN and SEAL teams.
    6. Bainbridge CPN (Captain) and SEAL team CDR (Commander) finally decide they have the OpArea and OSC authority to solely determine risk to hostage. 4 hours later, 3 dead raggies 7. BHO immediately claims credit for his "daring and decisive" behavior As usual with him, it's BS.

    So per our last email thread, I'm downgrading Oohbaby's performace to D-. Only reason it's not an F is that the hostage survived.

    Read the following accurate account.

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    Philips’ first leap into the warm, dark water of the Indian Ocean hadn’t worked out as well. With the
    Bainbridge in range and a rescue by his country’s Navy possible, Philips threw himself off of his
    lifeboat prison, enabling Navy shooters onboard the destroyer a clear shot at his captors and none was taken.

    The guidance from National Command Authority
    the president of the United States, Barack Obama had been clear: a peaceful solution was the only acceptable outcome to this standoff unless the hostage’s life was in clear, extreme danger.

    The next day, a small Navy boat approaching the floating raft was fired on by the Somali pirates
    and again no fire was returned and no pirates killed. This was again due to the cautious stance assumed by Navy personnel thanks to the combination of a lack of clear guidance from Washington and a mandate from the commander in chief’s staff not to act until Obama, a man with no background of dealing with such issues and no track record of decisiveness, decided that any outcome other than a "peaceful solution" would be acceptable.

    After taking fire from the Somali kidnappers again Saturday night, the on scene commander decided he’d had enough.

    Keeping his authority to act in the case of a clear and present danger to the hostage’s life and having heard nothing from Washington since yet another request to mount a rescue operation had been denied the day before, the Navy officer
    unnamed in all media reports to date decided the AK47 one captor had leveled at Philips’ back was a threat to the hostage’s life and ordered the NSWC team to take their shots.

    Three rounds downrange later, all three brigands became enemy KIA and Philips was safe.

    There is upside, downside, and spinside to the series of events over the last week that culminated in yesterday’s dramatic rescue of an American hostage.

    Almost immediately following word of the rescue, the Obama administration and its supporters claimed victory against pirates in the Indian Ocean and [1] declared that the dramatic end to the standoff put paid to questions of the inexperienced president’s toughness and decisiveness.

    Despite the Obama administration’s (and its sycophants’) attempt to spin yesterday’s success as a result of bold, decisive leadership by the inexperienced president, the reality is nothing of the sort. What should have been a standoff lasting only hours
    as long as it took the USS Bainbridge and its team of NSWC operators to steam to the location became an embarrassing four day and counting standoff between a ragtag handful of criminals with rifles and a U.S. Navy warship.

  2. Jarv

    Jarv Loud pipes saves lives. Zone Supporter

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    Where did the email come from ?
  3. Jon88

    Jon88 Benched

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    If this is true Obama is even dumber than I thought.
  4. TheCount

    TheCount Pixel Pusher

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    Oh Brother
  5. JBond

    JBond Well-Known Member

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    The ROE's have been discussed. Obama put very limiting ROE's on the SEALS. There was a thread about this already. It was widely reported in the news. Some Obama groupies drank the cool aid anyway. Obama was the problem not the solution. The commander was forced to work around Obama's pathetically weak orders to save a mans life. Obama then grabs the headline with the typical cheerleaders paving the way for him.
  6. masomenos

    masomenos Less is more

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    Oh, email forwards...
  7. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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