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Most of this forum is thinking this but is too afraid to say

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by TheRat, Oct 31, 2013.

  1. big dog cowboy

    big dog cowboy THE BIG DOG Staff Member

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    Exactamundo.
  2. NJ22

    NJ22 Well-Known Member

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    agreed he is a very good d-line coach and a very good DC, but he was a bad HC. There is no shame in that, I just want him doing what he is good at.
  3. stasheroo

    stasheroo Well-Known Member

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    And you still feel he's doing a good enough job and that the process is working?
  4. stasheroo

    stasheroo Well-Known Member

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    I definitely agree with your point about teams getting hot. That's very much true.

    What discourages me is that I have never seen that similar trait from this team.
  5. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    We had a hot stretch starting in mid-season just last year. Injuries eventually derailed it, but we had it going there for a stretch.
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  6. stasheroo

    stasheroo Well-Known Member

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    I honestly don't remember, what kind of a winning streak did we have?
  7. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

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    I do not think Garrett is capable of getting this team on that kind of streak. A lot of those streaks are emotionally driven backed up by change/adjustment.

    It also requires the team to win at least three games in a row. Garrett has exactly one winning streak greater than three games (2011) and only one of three games (2012).
  8. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

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    Beating Philadelphia, Cincinnati and Pittsburgh before losing to the Saints.
  9. stasheroo

    stasheroo Well-Known Member

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    I was just asking about that.

    And do I dare ask the records of the 3 teams in that winning streak?

    It's become painfully obvious that we're capable of beating the losers, not the winners.

    Inevitably getting us to the same 8-8.
  10. visionary

    visionary Well-Known Member

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    heck no to marinelli
  11. GimmeTheBall!

    GimmeTheBall! Junior College Transfer

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    Marinelli would be No. 2 millionth on my list for HC.
    I am not denigrating but how did that pop up in your mind? I am curious.

    As to Kiffin and Marinelli, both have done a good job -- YES A GOOD JOB -- considering the defections of slackers and the crush of injuries. But none deserve to be HC or fired.
  12. T-RO

    T-RO Well-Known Member

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    Jerry and Harbaugh could never co-exist. Harbaugh wouldn't put up with Jerry's nonsense. That would NEVER have worked.
  13. the_h0wey

    the_h0wey Well-Known Member

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    I was not thinking that, and pretty much no one on an internet forum is scared to say anything...
  14. Denim Chicken

    Denim Chicken Well-Known Member

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    Many posters don't know squat. Reactionary ignoramuses "Hey, people have been saying positive thing about this Marinelli guy. Let fire everyone and make him the coach!"
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  15. big dog cowboy

    big dog cowboy THE BIG DOG Staff Member

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    I'm not one of those who automatically think everything will be better if he gets fired. You never know who will be brought in here next. It's easy to say fire Garrett. Who takes his place? Who will JJ hire? Has Garrett made mistakes? You bet. But the injuries we have on defense the last 2 years are unbelievable. Not saying that as an excuse. There are reasons we have struggled to get above .500 and that is a pretty big one. Overall I believe the roster has improved under Garrett. That is a good start. Unfortunately we live in an instant gratification society.
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  16. BraveHeartFan

    BraveHeartFan We got a hat. I want a ring.

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    I doubt, very seriously, anyone was thinking Marinelli should be HC.

    I think most haven't forgotten how terrible he was as the HC in Detriot. As great as he is as a DL coach he's that bad, or worse, as an HC.

    So no it's not that anyone is afraid to say that it's that most people aren't foolish enough to say that.
  17. dropdeadfred5

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    you are exactly saying that you are satisfied with less.

    So what if a FEW teams have managed to win it all that way? About 40 others did it very differently. To me it is stupid to think that a small sample size of perhaps 3 is more important than 40.

    In other words have a REAL COMPLETE TEAM not bits and pieces which is all we have now.

    You look at even the ravens and the whole team was playing at its best when it mattered. BUT they also did not have any true weaknesses like we do right now with the D. Anyone claiming the D is other than bad is blind deaf and dumb.

    I want a dynasty or at least a team that is year in and year out not SATISFIED with just making the playoffs but has as its goal winning it all. All too many here are just happy with making the playoffs even if we go one and done.
  18. sadams

    sadams Well-Known Member

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    Coaches coach and players play. From what I have seen we need a little more play out of the players.
  19. stasheroo

    stasheroo Well-Known Member

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    I would respectfully counter with this:

    When did 3 years plus become 'instant gratification'?

    NFL player contracts are typically 4 years or less, a key part of any dynamic.

    Garrett has had more than enough time and resources to implement anything and everything he's wanted to, to the same middling results.

    At some point, the question needs to be asked what exactly he himself is bringing to the table?

    At this point, what exactly are his roles, responsibilities, and contributions?

    I can appreciate fear of the unknown, but currently there is a great deal of fear of the known.

    As in being on track for a third consecutive season of 8-8.

    There comes a point where wins and losses are more important that the owner's comfort level.
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  20. stasheroo

    stasheroo Well-Known Member

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    So the coaches are coaching well?

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