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Most of this forum is thinking this but is too afraid to say

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by TheRat, Oct 31, 2013.

  1. KJJ

    KJJ You Have an Axe to Grind

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    As unhappy as I am with Garrett I certainly wouldn't replace him with someone who went 0-16 as an NFL HC. I can't imagine most of this forum wanting Marinelli as the next HC. I know we don't have the brightest fan base but Marinelli as HC makes ZERO sense.
  2. DallasCowboysRule!

    DallasCowboysRule! Well-Known Member

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    I'd love to be 13-3 or something like that but whether we fire Garrett right now or not that is not going to happen this year. Not saying don't fire him after the season if he doesn't show post season success. I'm just saying don't fire him right now because we still have a chance to win this season and mid season coaching changes usually don't help teams win Super Bowls. I do think that Dalllas has a lot of holes and it will be hard to win it this year but I'm not willing to give up at the halfway point while sitting in first place.
  3. KJJ

    KJJ You Have an Axe to Grind

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    With Marinelli's track record as a HC fire Garrett today and hire him and the Cowboys will finish 4-12.
  4. Picksix

    Picksix A Work in Progress

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    Good grief! So you can read everyone's mind and know what we're all afraid of. Wow! That's about the most impressive thing I ever read. Right up there with suggesting that a guy who coached the only 0-16 team in NFL history should take over as head coach.
  5. Frozen700

    Frozen700 Well-Known Member

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    Are you serious?

    It's clear he did not literally mean it.

    It seems lately everybody is auditioning for a Mod job. It's clear you sent in your application, they have not replied back yet, so you are taking it a step forward, and showing them you are the right man for the job. Just private message an Admin, if you can't wait.

    "I hope the mods have words to say something to you about that"....really? Please don't tell me you were that kid in high school, who sat breathing distance from the teachers desk.

    If you have that big of a deal with it, just message the guy. Trying to out him, to the mods is lame
  6. Blue Eyed Devil

    Blue Eyed Devil Active Member

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    Yes I'm tired of Garrett - I have no clue what he brings to this team as head coach.
    No, I don't want anyone on this coaching staff as head coach. R.Marinelli has shown his ceiling is defensive coordinator, let's not make the same Peter Principle mistake we did with Garrett by promoting him above his ability level. I don't think I need to explain why Callahan and M.Kiffin would be foolish moves for head coaches.
  7. texbumthelife

    texbumthelife Well-Known Member

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    You know, I get why people don't want Garrett canned. I really do. However, that is the sort of dramatic shift in mindset this team needs. Then again, I also agree that no one on this current staff is qualified to be a HC. There is really nothing this team can do at the moment to improve its situation either way. Just another instance where the Cowboys are damned if they do and damned if they don't.
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  8. khiladi

    khiladi Well-Known Member

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    Nt, it's not.. cause JG is irrelevant to this team's success.. He desn't call plys, he doesn't do jack. And cutting him now simply means we abandon his crappy playbook nextyear.
  9. khiladi

    khiladi Well-Known Member

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    Hate Garrett.. But I was a Rat fan until I find out he cleared medicals 1 week after his release when his physicians gave him 3 months or so to be medically cleared...
  10. stasheroo

    stasheroo Well-Known Member

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    Fair enough.

    Appreciate you clearly stating your position.

    Too often it seems to be that the staunch supporters are everywhere, right up to the point they're proven to be wrong.

    And then they scatter into the darkness like roaches when the lights come on.
  11. AmberBeer

    AmberBeer Well-Known Member

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    Maybe for defensive coordinator, but I agree, not the HC.
  12. jobberone

    jobberone Right turn Clyde Staff Member

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    I wouldn't call myself a staunch supporter but I've grown to appreciate the guy. I'm not interested in changing coaches this or next year.
  13. AmberBeer

    AmberBeer Well-Known Member

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    As long as this team is in contention, there's no way Garrett gets canned. It would be a stupid move.
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  14. stasheroo

    stasheroo Well-Known Member

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    In my opinion, he wins a playoff game or he's out of time.

    'The process' has had more than enough time.
  15. ConstantReboot

    ConstantReboot Well-Known Member

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    I was never a fan of Garrett. I could never see why everyone back then thought it would make a great coach. So far, he is just terrible and my assumptions about him is correct - I doubt we will have a winning team with him so long his coach. Why?

    Because he is nothing more than a puppet for Jerry. What ever Jerry wants he will get from Garrett. Just once, I would like to see Garrett do away with the Jerry nonsense. If Garrett all of a sudden decides to change things around, like no more sideline visits during game time, or no more speaking the media, that will surprise me, and Garrett will gain my respect.

    But Jerry does what he wants and says what he wants despite it crippling the team. I doubt Garrett will do anything about it though. He will let the circus continue in Dallas. Because money to him, is more important than winning.
  16. ConstantReboot

    ConstantReboot Well-Known Member

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    I thought long and hard about this. Maybe that is exactly what this organization needs? A shock. Something that will change its trajectory away from being mediocre and average. Because we can't keep doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.
  17. jobberone

    jobberone Right turn Clyde Staff Member

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    I wouldn't think about it this year. That's not much difference in this and last year. How can you evaluate a defense that's missing most of its key players? Plus it's a new scheme with new coaches. And therein lies Jerry's problem with changing things up. I can tell you as a player that coaches esp position coaches have a huge impact on players plus you can shine in one scheme and be lost in another. If I'm Jerry I'm probably even thinking of two more years at the least. You can't keep changing coaching staffs.

    My criticism of Garrett this year is not adjusting quickly enough in the first half although its better. We've had three teams blitz us and we lost two of those games. IMO, he did not go quickly enough to the underneath stuff in all three. You can slug it out for a possession or two but if you can force the defense to change to your success then you have to attack it differently and where its weakest.

    I like the acquisition of talent lately. Unfortunately Jerry dug us in such a deep hole we probably need another year or so to be contenders assuming we can stay healthy enough. In the meantime you prune the verge and you add depth and some starters. Esp the depth. The league has become a league of attrition because the players are so big, fast, and dense from training year round.

    And I'm not a big Garrett fan. I've been on the fence until the last year or so. I'm still not convinced. But you aren't going anywhere starting over constantly.
  18. Wood

    Wood Well-Known Member

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    I would put it in this order of people who need to move on:

    1. Jerry Jones
    2. Jason Garrett
    3. Tony Romo

    None of them have done anything to hang their hat on in recent memory.
  19. khiladi

    khiladi Well-Known Member

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    My personal opinion is team is in contention despite him... The Ravens canned their actual play-caller, somebody who did something, and won the Super Bowl..
  20. starfrombirth

    starfrombirth Well-Known Member

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    And that is exactly might point... serious.. OR NOT.. wishing death on someone is just over the top and maybe, if you think it's ok, your morals should be questioned as well. Serious or not, some jokes are just uncalled for and unappreciated. So yes, I am serious.

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