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Movie Review: W

Discussion in 'Political Zone' started by WoodysGirl, Oct 17, 2008.

  1. WoodysGirl

    WoodysGirl Shut up and play! Staff Member

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    [IMG] W.

    President George W. Bush has garnered genuine admiration in some and provoked furious screaming fits in others. Whatever your political stripe, you might be interested in Oliver Stone's surprisingly sympathetic portrait of our current president from his hard drinking days in Yale to the aftermath of the Iraq invasion.

    Critical reaction has been mostly positive. Roger Ebert of the Chicago Sun-Times raves, "Oliver Stone's 'W.,' a biography of President Bush, is fascinating. No other word for it." However, David Ansen of Newsweek wasn't a fan: "W. might have had some impact had it been made four years ago. But it's both too late and too early for a movie about our sitting president."
  2. Heisenberg

    Heisenberg Pow! Pow!

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    I keep hearing that's it's surprisingly quite even-handed. I'm interested in seeing it.
  3. cowboys#1

    cowboys#1 Finish!

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    clintons movie would be nc-17


    book it!
  4. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    It would be a true wonder if Stone could be accurate and unbiased. But I guess stranger things have happened. Just cannot think of any..........
  5. theebs

    theebs Believe!!!!

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    lol

    You think everything is biased.

    If it doesnt in someway benefit you, its biased.

    you shoot down everything, its funny to read.

    Someone should make a list.
  6. Maikeru-sama

    Maikeru-sama Mick Green 58

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    I will definately be going to see this movie. I think Josh Brolin is one of the up and coming actors and has finally gotten out his dad's shadow.

    Me and some family members were going to see it this weekend but it doesn't seem to be playing everywhere, so we are going to wait until next weekend and hopefully it is playing at more locations.

    I was on IMDB looking at it this week and they were saying that he could get an Oscar Nomination for his performance.

    It is kind of odd that it is coming out now though.
  7. Hostile

    Hostile Tacos are a good investment Zone Supporter

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    I will probably never see it and for one simple reason.

    He isn't worthy of a movie as a tribute or as a critical account of his presidency. That to me means this is a political agenda movie and I have no interest in that.
  8. Maikeru-sama

    Maikeru-sama Mick Green 58

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    Interesting.

    I think becoming President of the United States is a huge deal and personally, I would be interested in the lives of any of them, whether I think they are good or bad, boring or exciting.

    I think George Bush's life is extremely interesting and I think you will see folks on both sides going out to see the movie.

    There's no doubt there is probably some political agenda but it will have no effect on how I vote one way or the other even though I am about 70% sure who I am voting for.
  9. theebs

    theebs Believe!!!!

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    I find it interesting that stone and bush were both at yale together.

    Pretty interesting.
  10. Kangaroo

    Kangaroo Active Member

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    It is Oliver Stone that dude is wigged out imo

    Hey if you look at the History of are Presidents and stuff it is pretty weird stuff of the people we elected Here are some stories for entertainment. The Vice presidnets have quite a few good ones too
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    John Tyler Borrowed cash to get to his inauguration. He was the VP at the time took over for the death of the president.
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    Andrew Johnson took his 1865 vice-presidential oath drunk as a skunk and belligerent as hell. Having grown up dirt poor, Johnson felt the aristocracy in Washington had abused his kinfolk. Glassy-eyed and smelling of whiskey, he reminded Congress, the Supreme Court, the Cabinet, and pretty much everyone within hearing distance that they owed their positions to “plebeians” such as himself, then kissed the Bible and staggered away. (Took over after Lincoln Died)

    That had to be funny
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    It is in his private life that Warren Harding fully lives up—or down—to his deeply tarnished reputation. Harding’s death was followed by rumors that his wife had poisoned him because of his adulteries. He had long carried on a love affair with Nan Britton, who was thirty-one years his junior and, as she wrote in her shocking 1927 book, The President’s Daughter, the mother of his child. One of Harding’s aides, Walter Ferguson, remembered the time he escorted Nan Britton to the White House and stood guard in front of Harding’s office, deflecting Florence’s attempts to gain entry. “She stood and glared at me like she couldn’t believe it. Finally she spun around and returned to the White House. . . . As soon as I thought it was safe, I went to the car and took the girl to a hotel.” Many years later, recalling this event provided Alice Roosevelt Longworth with much wicked amusement: “I don’t think the Duchess [Florence Harding’s nickname] ever found him in the moment,” she said, “but that summer afternoon in his office, I understand—it was really rather a close call. Stumbling in closets among galoshes, she pounding on the door, the girlie with panties over her head. That sort of thing. My God, we’ve got a President who doesn’t know beds were invented, and he was elected on a slogan of ‘Back to Normalcy.’” Nan Britton represented his most famously scandalous attachment in a long history of womanizing (and the only one the First Lady didn’t know about). One of Harding’s letters to another mistress, Carrie Phillips, contains evidence that just three years into his marriage he fathered another child; another letter shows that he paid for a woman’s abortion. An agent of the Bureau of Investigation, Gaston Means, later claimed that Harding had actually been present at the death of a prostitute. As Means told the story, this happened at a private party when a table was being uproariously cleared of bottles and glasses to provide a stage for dancing girls. A few of the celebrants, impatient for the performance to start, began throwing glasses and then bottles. One of them hit a girl, and she fell unconscious, to die later in the hospital. Rumors swirled about the event for years; some witnesses even claimed the President himself had thrown the missile that killed the girl.
    Carrie Phillips, the love of Harding’s life for fifteen years and Florence’s former best friend, blackmailed him. During the 1920 campaign Republican supporters collected twenty thousand dollars to pay her off and send her out of the country until after the election. When news of this came out, in a privately printed book, the administration sent Bureau of Investigation agents to seize the plates and printing press and destroy copies—the only known case of government suppression of a book in peacetime. Daugherty’s friend Jess Smith kept a secret bank account that apparently served as a blackmail fund to buy the silence of still other Harding mistresses. Daugherty was forced to drop a Justice Department case against the former Attorney General Mitchell Palmer because the man knew of one such payoff and might speak out.

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    Grover Cleveland is best known as the only president in history to be elected for two non-sequential terms. During his first electoral campaign in 1884 information was released that he had fathered an illegitimate child ten years before. Unusual for a candidate mired in such a scandal Cleveland admitted guilt in the matter. Chants of "Ma, ma, where's my pa? Off to the White House, ha ha ha!" became popular throughout the country, but it did not stop Cleveland from getting elected
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  11. Hostile

    Hostile Tacos are a good investment Zone Supporter

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    So tell me about how interesting a major movie would be about James Garfield.

    ;)
  12. Heisenberg

    Heisenberg Pow! Pow!

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    I disagree. His presidency, one way or another, is going to be historic. A major terrorist attack, two wars, an economy going into the toilet, propsering, and then going into the toilet again. That's all happened in the last 8 years.

    Plus, he had an interesting background and a couple of interesting elections along the way. Not to mention all the cloak and dagger stuff that this administration has been doing for the last 8 years.
  13. Kangaroo

    Kangaroo Active Member

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    Garfield had ties with the Union Pacific railRoad stuff when Grant was in office (He was a major player and still got elected)

    I just posted some stories for some people Harding makes Bill look like a choir boy :laugh2:
  14. WoodysGirl

    WoodysGirl Shut up and play! Staff Member

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    Interesting read, Kangaroo. Does that link contains more of the same?
  15. Kangaroo

    Kangaroo Active Member

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    here is some for you

    http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/15456

    http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/298693/top_ten_us_presidential_scandals.html?cat=75

    http://www.americanheritage.com/articles/magazine/ah/1998/4/1998_4_53.shtml


    Here are some links I love History stuff some of the stuff I knew a little bit about others I just learned tonight and some I just got a greater insight to what i sorta of new about already

    Enjoy and you can always do further research from there
  16. Big Dakota

    Big Dakota New Member

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    :bow: :laugh2:
  17. WoodysGirl

    WoodysGirl Shut up and play! Staff Member

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    Thanks a bunch, Kangaroo. I'll read them at my leisure.
  18. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    Well theebs why don't you try and find anything in a major media outlet that is not biased. have fun. Next time think before posting.
  19. trickblue

    trickblue Old Testament... Zone Supporter

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    I can't pretend to know how even it is...

    Jeb Bush said it was "hooey". I like a man that can say "hooey"... :D

    Many among Bush' confidants said they were willing to talk to him, but Stone chose to get his facts from books he read...

    To be honest, Stone isn't going to present a fair movie.There is a political motive to this movie, and it isn't positive.
  20. Heisenberg

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    http://www.wthefilm.com/guide/

    The makers of the movie have set up a factchecking site for the movie. They explain where they got their information and which parts were done just for dramatic purposes and not from actual facts. Pretty interesting.

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