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Muslin ties, Racist ties, Terrorist ties, Financial woe's ties, Wife's thesis

Discussion in 'Political Zone' started by REDVOLUTION, Oct 7, 2008.

  1. REDVOLUTION

    REDVOLUTION Return to Dominance

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    and he gets a pass on EVERYTHING.


    I am sorry.
    If a White Supremacist is running. I am nailing him for everything. No way you get in.


    When do the Obama connections become a security issue?


    This is not racial so dont even go there. Its alarming at this point.
  2. poke

    poke the older I get the better I was

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    all that has been brought up before, its all been in the hated MSM,
    where do you see him getting a pass on it ??
  3. Heisenberg

    Heisenberg Pow! Pow!

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    This is all information that's been out there. If there was a smoking gun in any of this, he'd be done. There isn't.

    Terrorist ties? The Ayers connection is tenuous at best. It all amounts to the fact that he was taken to the dude's house by the person who's seat he was going to replace. Ayers donated $200 to his campaign. This happened in 1995. They served on a couple of education boards together. Ayers has ties to basically all political parties in Chicago. Hell, there was a Republican on the radio today in Chicago that said
    Racial ties? Jeremiah Wright is the one that had some legs, but it's been played out already. If that broke today for the first time, it would mean something, but it broke months ago. Everyone already knows about it.

    Financial woes ties? The Raines thing? A single sentence in the style section of what I think was the NY Post about them having a conversation on the phone is the basis of these ties? Interesting.

    Wife's thesis? I'm assuming you've read it? I have. It's about her not feeling like she fits in because of the color of her skin. I can't imagine that's an uncommon feeling for someone in a similar position at that similar time.
  4. arglebargle

    arglebargle Well-Known Member

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    The US government cuts deals with North Korea. It has based it's economic prosperity on communist labor and bank support from China. It still has pragmatic dealings with crazed dictators. I can show you a picture of Rumsfield shaking hands with Saddam Hussain, and George H.W. Bush arm in arm with Manuel Noriega and a high ranking cocaine cartel kingpin.

    It would be nice if it was a simple world, but it isn't.
  5. ABQCOWBOY

    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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    I have said that I don't trust Obama but that is beside the issue IMO. I agree in principle that regardless of the amount of truth associated to any of these issues, it will not stick to Obama. It is debatable as why it will not stick. I don't believe that there is nothing to them but in the end, it doesn't matter. These stories will not be picked up and run with regardless.

    I suspect that this is more a strategy then an attempt to make something stick to Obama. Everybody knows that negative adds reduce voter turn out. Obama's voting base will be in demographics that don't usually show large voting turnout. He is counting on the people who don't normally vote. What the negative add campaign does is consolidate the voting base for each side. Essentially, the die hard Liberal faction will still vote for Obama and the hardcore Conservative faction will still vote for McCain but the ones in the middle may not vote in as large a number. This favors McCain.

    It may not be about what they can make stick. It may be about evening out the numbers.
  6. poke

    poke the older I get the better I was

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    so you are okay with your side just throwing stories out there in an effort
    to drive away voters ?
    yet in another thread you bemoan the side throwing stories out about Palin.
    either be for anything goes campaining or against it.......for both sides.
  7. arglebargle

    arglebargle Well-Known Member

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    Interesting take there. Makes this behavior seem like part of a possible strategy. Very Rovian.
  8. ABQCOWBOY

    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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    At least try to keep some semblance of truth to your posts. I insist.

    I did not say they were unfounded, with regards to Obama. I said that it does not matter if they are true or not. They are not going to stick. There is a difference. All of these stories have a foundation in truth to one extent or another. All are lagitamit political questions. As for the "Other Thread", I can only assume you mean Palin. Those stories were not lagitamit political questions because the stories had no basis in truth. IE, Obama new Ayers and had past dealings to one extent or another. Palin's 17 year old daughter never had any connection to Palin's Down Syndrom Son. There is no basis for running a story reporting that Palin's daughter was actually the mother of the boy. That's not a lagitimate target.

    As for the strategy, well, it's not mine. I did not develop it. I was never asked for my approval of it and I am not currently being asked for my opinion on it's merrits by the GOP. I am simply stating that this could be the strategy being employeed by the GOP.

    I would, however, like to point out that the negative add campaign was started by the Democratic Party, against Palin some time ago. The adds against Obama were much more recent. Clean your own house.
  9. Brandon

    Brandon Benched

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    What the hell does "Muslim ties" have anything to do with him running? Are you that uneducated about world religions?
  10. poke

    poke the older I get the better I was

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    i dont have a house to clean here.
    and if you think the negative ads have been running longer against your
    gal Sarah than they have been against Obama you must have missed a lot
    of stuff .
    forgive me for seeing how for some folks it only works one way and for not falling in love with Mrs Palin as so many obviously have.
    truth be told i havent voted yet and still havent decided how best to
    vote and still show my disgust with the whole mess.
    im sure it seems like i lean one way but i have only been doing that to counter
    this heavily right weighted zone out.
    i probably voted for a republican before a lot of people here were born.
    and i have voted democrat too.
    maybe even in the same election...
  11. Maikeru-sama

    Maikeru-sama Mick Green 58

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    Still playing the anti-white, anti-america and anti-christian theme huh.

    Oh well, desperate times calls for desperate measures I suppose.
  12. ABQCOWBOY

    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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    Your original assumptions about what I was saying were wrong.

    Vote your conscions.
  13. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Brotherhood of the Beard Staff Member

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    Maybe most of the ties are not taken seriously...because most have been debunked time and time again as anything to worry about.

    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/guilt_and_associations.html


    http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_obama_write_that_he_would_stand.html

    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/corsis_dull_hatchet.html

    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/rezko_reality.html

    http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_obama_snub_us_troops_in_afghanistan.html

    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/tax_tally_trickery.html



    Now people can claim this or that but there is a good deal of truth that the reason many of these things have been used to try and hurt obama is that he is a liberal democrat and he is a black man.
  14. Bach

    Bach Benched

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    [IMG]

    His associations really are disconcerting.
  15. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Brotherhood of the Beard Staff Member

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    :laugh2: OBL in the Hawaiian shirt always makes me laugh.
  16. Big Dakota

    Big Dakota New Member

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    Ya spose Osama calls Obama his brah?
  17. trickblue

    trickblue Old Testament... Zone Supporter

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    Wel they certainly can't call each other howlie... ;)
  18. Garland powerplay

    Garland powerplay Active Member

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    It would be a major victory for Islam. They will be celebrating in Tehran
  19. JBond

    JBond Well-Known Member

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    I wonder why the Muslim extremists want Obama elected? I wonder why every communist and socialist country wants Obama elected? I wonder and wonder. Maybe some one smarter than me will explain why?

    Oh yea, now I remember. He said he will meet unconditionally with the leaders of those countries and at the same time invade a country that tried to befriend us and also has nukes. That should help.
  20. Angus

    Angus Active Member

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    That is interesting. Where did you read it? I understood that her thesis, like all other things Obama at educational institutions, was made off limits to everyone by Obama.

    Any idea where someone can get or see a copy?

    :confused:

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