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My draft ramblings....

Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by Risen Star, Apr 24, 2013.

  1. CashMan

    CashMan Well-Known Member

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    How do you have a Guard as the #1 player, on your list? Never in a million years, will a guard be rated that high.

    If you are listening to Todd McShay for your draft info, that is sad. ESPN has been pushing him for several years, he knows nothing about the NFL draft.
  2. dwight

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    Chance Warmack is very good player. I might get heat for this but if Dallas selects Warmack, he might be the next Larry Allen for Dallas. Just my observations of him and my opinion.
  3. CowboyFan74

    CowboyFan74 Cowboys Analyst

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  4. dwight

    dwight Well-Known Member

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    That's why I stated its just my opinion.
  5. CashMan

    CashMan Well-Known Member

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    I do not doubt he is good, just not #1 rated good. Guard does not have the same value as LT. Also, the same was said for DeCastro, how did that work out for him in the draft? Warmack also has a red flag for sweating too much, IDK if I want my guy on IVs constantly. Sometimes, NFL caliber players look like gods among kids in College, so I do not put too much stock in him, if Dallas did take him at 18, I would be happy, but no way would he be #1 on my board.
  6. Dalmations202

    Dalmations202 Member

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    I have a question that is a little off the subject, but still somewhat applies to Risen rankings.

    How do you rate Eric Fisher from Central Michigan so high?
    Don't get me wrong I don't mean to criticize your good work (it seems to fall in line with most experts), but you have tape on him playing against what top ranked talent? Michigan State maybe -- or is it that he was good against Toledo?

    From what I have seen, he is probably a great workout warrior, and probably deserves to be in the 1st round, but I couldn't find anything where he played against the best - and that is all he will see in the NFL.

    While he may end up being Larry Allen - totally dominant -- Larry Allen was a second rounder because he hadn't played against the top teams. I am just curious why everyone think Fisher will succeed where others haven't.

    I watched Teo this year as well, and as long as he wasn't up against top flight competition he was a top 5 pick easily -- then came the championship game.

    I am just curious how anyone who is not playing for a major school who is ranked in the top 10 in the nation is considered in the top 5 selections. Is this why the draft is such a craps shoot?

    Thoughts?
  7. ABQcowboyJR

    ABQcowboyJR Well-Known Member

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    The senior bowl really helped him. When he played against that elite college competition he thrived.
  8. Dalmations202

    Dalmations202 Member

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    Thanks -- he must have really been dominant there.
  9. AsthmaField

    AsthmaField Outta bounds

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    He really was. He was so nimble that nobody got even close to beating him in 1-on-1 drills. One of the coaches that was there watching stated that one of the DL looked really good (I can't remember who it was)... unless he was going against Eric Fisher, and then he looked like everyone else... because Fisher just stonewalled everyone.

    Everything looked easy for Fisher. He was just on another level.
  10. xwalker

    xwalker Well-Known Member

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    People remember LA for the 700 lbs bench press and blowing defenders up with great power; however, LA also had elite athleticism. He went to the Pro Bowl one year at Left Tackle.

    Warmack's athleticism is not remotely close to LA's.
  11. Manster54

    Manster54 Active Member

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    Yeah, I heard Warmack is "in the box" for heavy sweating.
    ;)
  12. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    My rankings are a combination of watching a ton of games, videos, and of course leaning on opinions I trust when I don't get to see the player very often, if at all.
  13. DFWJC

    DFWJC Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    I agree.

    I'll try to do the same, but not so sure I can pull it off with all the family and work deadline stuff on Saturday.
  14. DFWJC

    DFWJC Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    Sly is only 2 1/2 months older than Richardson. Both will be 24 for almost all of next season.
  15. Gaede

    Gaede Well-Known Member

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    Seriously?! Did not know that.

    In that case, I prefer Sly--who built much more like a DT
  16. DFWJC

    DFWJC Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    Well, he IS going to be the very 1st player taken in the draft....and most GMs seems to rank him as high or higher than RS does.

    Sorry, but I have issue with the "power conference" snobbery.
    Fisher did play D-1 football...it's not like he played D-2 or D-3 ball. And the list is very, very long and distinguished of great NFL players (Hall of Famers too) that did not play in one of the "power conference schools".

    Say "Hi" to Demarcus Ware or Jerry Rice for starters.
    Oh yeah..and Larry Allen. :)

    On the other hand, there's an huge list of top 10 players selected from "major schools" (oh, let's say Michigan State, for example) who were total busts at the next level. Say "hi" to Vernon Gholston and Tony Manderich.
  17. newnationcb

    newnationcb Well-Known Member

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    I can't believe no one has called him out for having a CB rated 12th overall. A CB rated lower than Mo for that matter.
  18. DFWJC

    DFWJC Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    He rates Milliner lower than almost all of analysts, so please explain
  19. newnationcb

    newnationcb Well-Known Member

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    He's still at a position risen star has claimed doesn't even matter on the field.
  20. Manwiththeplan

    Manwiththeplan Well-Known Member

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    yea, the way the board is looking, I think Vaccaro will be the pick. Floyd is likely to go to Carolina and if Star is gone, I think we go Vaccaro

    edit: swap star with floyd :)

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