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Neighborhood watch captain kills black teen - doesn't get arrested

Discussion in 'Off-topic Zone' started by DOUBLE WING, Mar 8, 2012.

  1. DOUBLE WING

    DOUBLE WING Well-Known Member

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    http://news.yahoo.com/family-florida-boy-killed-neighborhood-watch-seeks-arrest-044537742.html
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    We've got one of these neighorbood watch gestapos on my block. Wouldn't put it past him to do something like this either.

    How do the cops not arrest this guy on the spot? What a complete embarrassment all around.
  2. JonJon

    JonJon Injured Reserve

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    Why was he not arrested? So in this neighborhood, you can kill someone and just tell the cops that the victim looked suspicious, and then all is well? This doesn't seem like proper protocol to me.
  3. DOUBLE WING

    DOUBLE WING Well-Known Member

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    My guess would be that he has friends in high places.
  4. DFWJC

    DFWJC Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    That's crazy if it really went downs as described.
    If so, no way he gets away with this scot free.
  5. Sam I Am

    Sam I Am Unfriendly and Aloof!

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    Something has to be missing from this report? If it truly went down like that, there is a lot more than just that guy needing to be arrested.
  6. Cajuncowboy

    Cajuncowboy Preacher From The Black Lagoon

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    Number one, that report is not the whole story obviously. It can't be.

    Number two, if it is indeed the whole story, then the guy needs to be arrested.

    Number three, why is race even an issue. The guy that died is black, that doesn't make him more dead. The guy that shot him is white, that doesn't make him more white.

    The shooter needs to go to jail and be treated just like any other murderer if it did happen the way the report said. Race means nothing in this matter unless they find some White Power literature at his house or something stupid like that.
  7. The30YardSlant

    The30YardSlant Benched

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    Almost no chance that article is telling the whole story. It simply doesnt pass the smell test.
  8. JustDezIt

    JustDezIt Formerly sm0kie13 ROY

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    maybe due to the fact that it is possible that he was shot because he was black?
  9. Manwiththeplan

    Manwiththeplan Well-Known Member

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    What could the article be missing that would explain why he wasn't arrested? The kid stayed in that neighborhood and didn't have a weapon on him.
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  11. Eric_Boyer

    Eric_Boyer Well-Known Member

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    a million things.

    like, the kid was throwing rocks at the car. the man got out to lecture the kid, who started pushing his finger in the mans chest. witness's saw the whole thing go down, as the teen got more and more confrontational.

    assuming it is race based is pathetic.
  12. The30YardSlant

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    The fact that he WASNT arrested is what stinks about that article. This isnt 1920, you arent allowed to just kill certain people without even so much as a police officer looking in your direction. Get off on it? Maybe, but good lord he want even arrested. Even during the 50s and 60s you'd usually see people get arrested before getting off a half hour later.

    I'm not saying the shooting was justified (it almost certainly wasnt) but there HAS to be something else to it for him not to currently be in custody.
  13. The30YardSlant

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    It's certainly possible but believe it or not in 2012 white people get arrested for killing black people. In fact, killing a black man often results in a HEAVIER sentence if convicted because they always find a way to qualify it as a hate crime which carries stiffer penalties.
  14. TheCount

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    At what point, in your completely made up scenario, does anyone need to be shot and the shooter not need to be arrested?

    As to the race issue, pretending there's no chance it has a role in this is as naive as assuming it 100% does.
  15. The30YardSlant

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    What he chose were poor examples but if a scenario unfolded where the shooter was in legitimate fear for his life (they were arguing and the kid reached into his pocket, the kid physically attacked him, etc.) then it is hardly uncommon to postpone an arrest pending investigation. If he was legally carrying, and he can prove there were circumstances that would lead a rational individual to fear for their life, then he won't be convicted of this. Am I saying that's what happened? No, but whatever happened I refuse to believe that he simply shot the kid in cold blood and has yet to be arrested.
  16. TheCount

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    You can refuse to believe whatever you choose. You've created an entirely new scenario where a teenager drags a grown man out of his car, beats him and then reaches for a can of ice tea to shoot him with, to justify the death of a 17 year old. Why?

    I am sure there was some sort of confrontation, but it'd have to be a particularly nasty one to justify the shooting. Being afraid for your life does not always justify murder. I've been scared for my life on a few occasions and never shot a soul. Why? Because I have legs with which to walk away.
  17. The30YardSlant

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    That's not what I said. At all.

    I believe I specifically said...

    I don't know what happened. What I DO know is that, especially in our politically correct society, had it gone down exactly as the linked article says he would not currently be a free man. He'd be in jail or out on bail and being crucified as a racist murderer.
  18. TheCount

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    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/08/family-of-trayvon-martin-_n_1332756.html
  19. TheCount

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    Why not? He shot a kid, said he was afraid had a permit and has no record. The cops don't HAVE to arrest everyone that fires a gun, and in this case they clearly choose not to while they finished their investigation.
  20. The30YardSlant

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    Fearing for one's life is the most common defense used in police officer and concealed carry related shootings, and it works more often than not. It helps that statistics show that police officers and those with CHL are far less likely to commit felonies across the board, but especially with regards to violent crimes. For better or worse, courts tend to put more faith in the word of people who are responsibly carrying weapons over everybody else.

    I can promise you that if he says he was in fear for his life and he has a clean record, character witnesses and witnesses of the event to back him up, there is zero chance he goes to jail for this.

    Again, I'm not saying it was justified. I'm saying that I'm smart enough to know that 2 plus 2 doesnt equal 16.

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