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New Jersey boy not allowed back to school without flu shot

Discussion in 'Off-topic Zone' started by JBond, Jan 8, 2013.

  1. a_minimalist

    a_minimalist Active Member

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    Oh don't get me wrong. I don't think they are as bad as some make them out to be. My ex was a freak about this crap. She made me sit through some BS seminar about how bad they are. I wanted to jam forks into my eyes. I just question some things and they make me a little uneasy. That alone makes me trust my instincts and say nah not right now. Maybe after a real bad flu I'll change my mind when I'm older and my body doesn't fight off sicknesses the same way. I just wouldn't want someone telling me I have to take one so why should someone make a child. I don't even take tylenol for headaches. I don't like putting things in my body. It's worked out for quite some time now. If it aint broke don't fix it.

    On another note, my mother is a teacher in NJ and I just asked her about it. The state makes it mandatory for all preschoolers to get flu shots. I was unaware as I don't have children. She doesn't mind that the state does it but has pretty liberal approach to just about everything. Either way, state mandated flu shots for kids seems wrong to me.
  2. Hopeuhavechange

    Hopeuhavechange New Member

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    I choose not to take it myself and am firmly against compulsory vaccs. But for subsets the benefits plainly outweigh the risks. You have to make an infrormed choice either for yourself or for those under your care. Lots of noise and erroneous blather out there to sift thru regreattably. Besides that, tho, I won't pretend it's easy or clear-cut at any rt even within the medical community.
  3. a_minimalist

    a_minimalist Active Member

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    I absolutely agree. You communicated that much better than I could.
  4. Cajuncowboy

    Cajuncowboy Preacher From The Black Lagoon

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    Are they worried he will give the kids who have the flu shot the flu? Really?
  5. Cajuncowboy

    Cajuncowboy Preacher From The Black Lagoon

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    LOL! I just posted that before I saw this. Great minds.
  6. Illini88228

    Illini88228 Well-Known Member

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    I didn't mean to suggest that your post was crazy, in fact it's one of the most sane in the whole thread. I tend to duck and cover when vaccines come up because there's a lot of irrational nonsense out there. I was just pointing out that the honey badger line was funny.
  7. Hoofbite

    Hoofbite Well-Known Member

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    :laugh2:

    Are entirely wrong. Had you read my reply to him then your question above would have ben answered.
  8. Hopeuhavechange

    Hopeuhavechange New Member

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    influenza IS A deadly pathogen. our healthy immune system mounts cooridinated defenses which typically prevails when strong, but dont minimize it. and as mentioned it mutates/seeks or probes weak cellular entry pts for faulty def mechanisms. it learns or adapts to our responses to our synthetic,weakened clone creations which mimic the pathogen...adaptation in action. War.


    wash your hands often, stay healthy, get outside,avoid coughers and large groups where possible,eat well , live in bubble if you must.
  9. dantheman41

    dantheman41 Active Member

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    Flu shots are such a scam. My nephew recently had one and he coincidently got extremely sick right after shot and had to go to hospital. Seriously?! Over the flu? I'd rather have the flu
  10. CanadianCowboysFan

    CanadianCowboysFan Lightning Rod

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    But what if your decision puts my son and others at risk? Is that fair to them?

    We have had some epidemics of mumps, whooping cough, measles, German Measles etc, all brought on by a certain religious group that lives mostly in the valley to the east of Vancouver and who are against vaccines. Is that fair to the rest of the population?

    My son has all his shots, gets a flu shot every year. Helps him but also is good for society in my view.
  11. Cajuncowboy

    Cajuncowboy Preacher From The Black Lagoon

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    Oh, then go to another school. That was the option we were given. Not good enough for you?
  12. CanadianCowboysFan

    CanadianCowboysFan Lightning Rod

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    Why should my son switch schools because some other parents decide to put him at risk by not taking normal every day precautions against disease?
  13. Cajuncowboy

    Cajuncowboy Preacher From The Black Lagoon

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    Schools don't have a right to tell parents what to inject their kids with. If you want to give your kid shots for something that's a "you" thing. But don't force it down others throat.

    And it's not normal to shoot them up for everything under the sun. If you want to let the government take away all your parental rights and shoot your kid up just to see what happens, then that's up to you.

    Earlier in this thread I was told that if I didn't like it I should take my kid out of the school and put them in a private school. Why doesn't that same logic hold true for those who want their kids shot up with drugs just to make the drug companies money?
    (By the way we home school. Always have and always will so it doesn't effect us.) Oh and my kids and my wife and I have never had the "flu". we've had a few colds but nothing like the hysteria surrounding this.
  14. a_minimalist

    a_minimalist Active Member

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    If it constantly adapts, which I was well aware of, why even take the shot?
  15. Teren_Kanan

    Teren_Kanan Well-Known Member

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    Meh, I'm not sure on all the facts, but I know it always seems like the people who take flu shots, lots of medicine while sick, and worry about germs are the ones always getting sick. Maybe they do those things BECAUSE they always get sick but /shrug.

    I don't worry about germs, I don't get flu shots, and the only medicine I take while sick is Ibuprofen occasionally. I seem to get sick about once a year.. for a day tops. My wife is a teacher and does all the flu shot stuff, also takes a lot of medicine when she's sick. She teaches special needs kids who already get sick all the time due to bad immune systems, so she gets sick very frequently.

    I hardly ever catch it from her even though I do absolutely nothing differently around her, I even refuse to let her not kiss me etc. Last time she got really sick, I caught it, and was over it before she was (bug left me in about 36 hours, took her over a week) without taking medication.

    Perhaps I'm just lucky, but it really does just seem like those who concern themselves with all that crap get sick far more often than those who don't.
  16. CashMan

    CashMan Well-Known Member

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    A great man once said:

    The needs of the many, outweigh the needs of the few.
  17. JBond

    JBond Well-Known Member

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    and they have been ineffective for just as long. The strand running rampant right now was not planed for and is not addressed by the current cocktail they are forcing children to be shot up with.

    http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/01/08/1417091/flu-wreaking-havoc-ers/?mobile=nc

    If all the other kids in the school have the magical elixir already injected into their bodies, why should they care if one didn't. They have the magic potion in them already. It should not matter one little bit to them. They have the government mandated solution. Nothing could possibly go wrong, so why are they even worried about it?
  18. JBond

    JBond Well-Known Member

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    Stalin?
  19. Dallas

    Dallas Old bulletproof tiger

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    You are out of your mind and would be not welcome around me, ever. It is this kind of attitude which has sunk this country. You are all for taking things from anyone who you think will benefit a few more.

    I'd like to see you try.


    Happy New Year :cool:
  20. pjtoadie

    pjtoadie Cleveland's #1 Cowboys fan

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    :bow:

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