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Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by DaBoys4Life, Oct 27, 2008.

  1. DaBoys4Life

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    http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=131637
    http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=132990

    Those are 2 I've done already one Pre RW trade one Post RW trade....alright lets get into it!!

    2. Evander Hood Mizzou DT 6-3 295- replacement for either Canty or Spears doesn't matter who however Spears seems to be doing better than Canty so he's an upgrade....Non stop motor!!!!!!

    3. BJ Raji BC DT 6-1 325- huge monsterous DT will add something to the D that is missing. Pushing Ratliff back to his natural position this will improve the defense immensley.

    4a. Daniel Holtclaw Eastern Mich ILB 6-1 245- James sucks Carp sucks Burnnetts always injured....huge upgrade....monster numbers in his career ball hawk if there is a tackle to be made he will make it.

    4b. Chip Vaugh Wake Forest SS 6-2 214 2007 he had 105 tackles 4.5 TFL 1 INT 14 PBU....I don't think anything else needs to be said....

    5a. Garrett Reynolds OT UNC 6-7 310 No deal for colombo yet Flo is old still plays good. However bringing in someone young never hurts especially if you consider who we already have as back ups....it's clear we need help at the OLine position.

    5b. Louis Vasquez OG TT 6-5 335
    He size is exactly what we look for in OLine man. Coming from a pass happy team like TT he didn't give up a sack in 07. This guy is massive and provides some more interior OLine depth.

    6. Ramses Barden WR. Cal Poly 6-6 224 this guys stats are off the charts and so are his metrics. If he does anything freakish on pro day or at the combine he will have scouts going go go ga ga over him. Although we trade for RW it doesn't hurt to dream that we draft a WR....maybe he can beat out Hurd and Stanback who knows....

    7a James Casey TE Rice 6-4 245 this guy is only a sophmore....however he is 25 years old!!! If he comes out I don't think we can pass up on him....he even plays some full back.....we can get rid of Curtis and Deon and replace them with Casey!!!!! (hopefully he declares) he has some nice stats!!!

    7b Brandon Swain DE West Texas A&M 6-3 256 he defintley has the size to play at the next level. He dominated at the level he played for.... 2007 71 tackles 24.5 TFL 14 sacks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hopefully he can be more than what Eric Walden was.
  2. ThatsmyQB

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    Spears doing better then Canty?
    Canty every week is getting in the face and nailin Q.B.'s and making plays where as Spears I don't even know is plaint he game.
    If Spears contract is up, I like this pick since I believe we need more help on the D-line, especially if Spears is gone or if we can't pay Canty.
    I like the idea of taking athletic D.T.'s and making them 3-4 D.E.'s like N.E. always does.


    I like it, don't like 6'-1 only, would rather have a bigger guy, but if he's strong at the point of attack, I'll take him.

    James SUCKS?
    I can't picture a 4th round pick being better than Burnett or Carpenter, so I dont' think we'll be drafting an I.L.B. this year.




    Don't know much about him, but fits the profile, I would rather use one of our earlier picks on this position though.



    I like Free, but he's still a question mark, I dont have a problem with this one.

    I loke it, I like your idea of getting HUGE GUYS, it's like speeds kills at the skill posiiton players, well, SIZE matters on the O-line to wear the defense down.


    I honestly can't picture a 6th round pick beaitng out Hurd or Stanback, we havfe taken the time to develop a guy like Stanback, so I can't see us giving up on him just yet to start all over again.
    I can't see W.R. even being on our draft board IMO.





    I like the idea of replacing Curtis with one guy, providing he can play both positions.



    I assume he'll be an O.L.B.?
    Overall other then the I.L.B. pick I like it.
  3. DaBoys4Life

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    Yeah man I don't like it either and I've been very critical of Spears and pretty high on Canty however I just can't see us keeping both of them or keeping Canty over Spears.

    Yea I know what you're saying however he's pretty decent the dude I really want is.....Vince Oghobaase from duke 6'6 310 but IDK if he is going to declare i'ma crossing my fingers though hoping he is same goes for Brandon Spikes.


    Yeah man.....Burnett needs to stay healthy for a full season before we can even think about counting on him....Carp can easily be outplayed by a 4th round pick.....Yes James sucks he is average at best



    IDK people are jumping the gun a bit about the safety position and 4th round isn't a bad place to get solid quality players this is where the real draft begins IMO.

    All of our back up lineman are a joke except Holland.
    Yea and thats how we like em big strong and nasty!!!


    I think Hurd losing his spot to Austin makes him vulnerable to get cut. Stanback has shown nothing to be able to be kept on the roster....projects have to end...Hurd three years are up and Stanback going into his third year I doubt we will see anything great from him.....


    Yea James Casey does it all for Rice I was watching the game and really impressed however IDK if he comes out or if he stays in college.....If he does IDK if he will last this long.....but I can always dream =)

    Yea DE normally transfer to OLB in the 3-4 and sitting at 6'3 257 he already has a NFL body...will be interesting if he can continue to impress people.
  4. ThatsmyQB

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    How do we know that?
    I mean, Free looks good, we can't really tell how good until he actually plays though.
    Holland?
    I honestly never even heard of him and didn't even know he was on our roster.
    I also think if it's Spears or Canty, Spears is a gonner since Canty is definately outplaying Spears all year.

    I'd love for Terrence Cody to come out and trade up to get him, he would complete our defense IMO moving Ratliff to Spears spot and plugging up the O-lineman to free up our L.B.'s, cause Rat and Tank just aren't big enough to handle the 3-4 duties as I'd like, they get pushed around way too much making our run defense suffer.
  5. DaBoys4Life

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    Holland started in Denver....Canty isn't outplaying spears.....
  6. ThatsmyQB

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    Have you been watchign the games this year?
    Spears disappears egame and I don't even knwo he's on our team I never hear his name mentioned, where as Canty is always in the Q.b.'s face, this past sunday he naailed Garcia a ton of times and in his face all day, Canty is 100% without a question outplaying Spears at this point so far.

    If I wasn't a cowboys fan, I woudl never know Spears was on our team since I honestly can't recall any plays he ever really makes.
    Cany is playing WW WAY WAY BETTER than Spears right now, and it's not even in the same ballpark IMO!
  7. DaBoys4Life

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    It's crazy how two people can get 2 different perspectives from the same game.... I feel the opposite.....Canty has 1 sack Spears has zero spears has 3 TFL for loss Canty has 1 Spears has 20 tackles Canty has 20 tackles....maybe the equally have been playing poorly stats don't favor either one to much IMO.
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    Stats don't tell the whole story, every week I see Canty putting great pressure ont he Q.B. getting their just a half step too late a lot of time where he could easily have 5 or 6 sacks by now IMO, could you look up or find out Q.B. Pressures? I bet if you looked up Q.B. pressures, that's whe you'll see a DRASTIC difference between the two I'm pretty sure.
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    2 - Mizzou's D sucks, so no thank you on Hood.

    3 - Raji is an underachiever and has beem problematic at BC, no thank you.

    4 - I am cool with the Holtclaw pick, reminds me of Zak DeOssie who I wanted Dallas to draft a few years ago.

    4 - I know nothing of Chip Vaugh, so I can't say if this is a good or bad pick.

    5 - I know nothing of Reynolds, but there are some other players who I would prefer in this spot, one is the C from Louisville if he is still on the board.

    5 - Vasquez would be a very nice pick. IMO he should go higher based on his ability, but he probably won't.

    6 - no clue who this guy is.....but I am not too worried about drafting a WR in this draft. We have TO, Williams, Crayton, Hurd, Stanback, Austin, Amendola, and that other kid we called up for the Cleveland game.

    7 - not familiar with Casey, but I'll pass

    7 - Swain is a very solid pick here this late in the draft....but I am not sure he will last this long. I say, take Swain with the first 7th and then get DT Sammy Lee Hill with the this pick.
  10. DaBoys4Life

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    Spears not playing on passing downs could have something to do with that don't you think? But yeah....One of these two are gone next year so it really makes no difference to me.

    You can have good individual players with a crappy Defense just look at Ware and our D.

    What do you mean problematic ? He has character issues? He isn't my first choice for DT for us....I want the kid from Duke but if he doesn't come out this is like the only big massive DT that should be drafted this early.

    Holtzclaw is the man!!!
    Good pick I say!
    A back up center would be nice I think I focused more on OT since Flo is old and Colombo doesn't have a deal....The center from Louisville got hurt....
    Yea interior O Line depth is sorely needed!!!!
    I view it differently, this was Hurd 3 season and it was plagued by injuries even though he's a good story I don't see how we can keep him. Stanback blows and Amendola and the other bum = bums. Even though this guy is playing at a D1-AA level his numbers are ridic!
    So do you not even bother to long him up? Right now he has 67 catches for 803 yards he is 10th in the NCAA in receiving yards to go along with 35 rushes for 175 yards....IDK how you can just say i'll pass because you don't know who he is.....
    Swain is solid and I think he will last this late.
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  12. DaBoys4Life

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    him being a 2 down playing and producing just as much as a 3 down player hmmmm
  13. Bob Sacamano

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    oh, I almost forgot, Daboys

    your mock sucks


















    j/k, it's pretty good, although I think Raji is overrated
  14. DaBoys4Life

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    :muttley:

    I see Sal Pal is your drinking buddy
  15. Bob Sacamano

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    naw, I pal around w/ Whitney Houston
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    I always knew you were a diva. ;)
  17. DaBoys4Life

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    :lmao2::lmao:
  18. Bob Sacamano

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    walked into that one
  19. ThatsmyQB

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    Not really, you got to factor in most NFL teams run predominatly to the left, meaning towards Spears side of the ball, and thus he should have alot more tackles based off that alone even just playing 2 downs.

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