NFL Considering Moving The Scouting Combine To California in 2018

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  1. Toruk_Makto

    Toruk_Makto Well-Known Member

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    I live here. One of the best states in the union.
     
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  2. casmith07

    casmith07 Attorney-at-Zone

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    What? Man! All those gays, and the devil's lettuce, and Mexicans!

    Who do they think they are with their technology and renewable energy and equality!?
     
  3. mrtxstar

    mrtxstar Well-Known Member

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    ...if you like paying taxes & water shortage but hey, anyone that believe Cali should be it's own country is okay by me.
     
  4. Toruk_Makto

    Toruk_Makto Well-Known Member

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    California is no longer in a drought. And when it was I was still miraculously able to drink water everyday.

    Additionally, liberal states like California and New York do pay more into the federal system than anyone else. It's because those states believe that those with much should pay their fair share. Surprisingly, the more conservative states who pay less in taxes than tax benefits they receive (that is to say they are subsidized by higher paying liberal states) are the ones always complaining about taxes being too high.

    Great irony there.

    But yes I do enjoy living in one of the greatest cities in the world (San Francisco) surrounded by many of the world's great companies.
     
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  5. Sydla

    Sydla Well-Known Member

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    LOL.

    Stunning.
     
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  6. mrtxstar

    mrtxstar Well-Known Member

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    If true then how do states that have no state taxes even survive? Keeping more of your own money may not be appealing to you but I personally think I know how to better spend the money I earn than anyone else.
     
  7. CalPolyTechnique

    CalPolyTechnique Well-Known Member

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    They survive by not spending on infrastructure, higher-property taxes and higher than average sales taxes.

    There's no such thing as a free lunch.
     
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  8. Toruk_Makto

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    Texas balances having no state income tax by lower-than-average spending, higher-than-average property taxes and higher-than-average sales taxes. Not to mention the business franchise tax which is onerous for small and medium sized businesses. In 2012 lawsuits representing more than 500 school districts were filed against the state arguing that it does not properly finance public education. In fact a district court judge found the state's school system unconstitutional. I wonder why Texas such a successful state economically can't fund education in a constitutional manner?

    But keep on believing you're getting a free lunch. Hint: You're not.
     
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  9. mrtxstar

    mrtxstar Well-Known Member

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    I was home schooled and I have home schooled mine. My small business is thriving and my taxes are not "onerous". You talking lies from Commiefornia like you know what you're talking about ain't going to fly homie.
     
  10. Toruk_Makto

    Toruk_Makto Well-Known Member

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    Everything I've said is objective facts. I referenced lawsuits and specific taxes.

    What does you being home schooled have to do with the fact your schools were deemed unconstitutional by a court of Texas law?

    What does your business doing well have to do with the fact that the franchise business tax has proven onerous for small businesses?

    Your property and sales taxes are above the national average. Your state provides less services on average and pushes things down to local municipalities to try and survive. You have some winners because if this and a lot of losers.

    You're entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.
     
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  11. radioactivecowboy88

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    Jerry is already licking is chops for 2019 lol
     
  12. mrtxstar

    mrtxstar Well-Known Member

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    It's your wording that gets you in trouble with presenting the so-called facts which you are playing fast and lose with here... The schools in Texas were not deemed unconstitutional, like we are getting taught some illegal stuff here. The school finance system was found to be unconstitutional because it fails to provide adequate funding or distribute it funds fairly among school districts.

    The state of Texas is known for its business-friendly tax structure... no state personal income tax, no corporate income tax and support for business development, particularly in the technology sector. That's a hell of a deal if the trade off is higher property taxes. Texas vs California... I take home far more of my own money where I am now.

    Less services provide by the state? It's not the state's job to provide everything under the sun. Texas provides that which there is a real need to provide. I've seen the stories on TV of folks in California living on welfare being given more than what is earned with a minimum wage job. That's the entitlement state at "work".

    For senior citizens, Texas is by far a better state to live in than California. Texas is ranked 8th while Cali is 41st.
    https://www.senioradvice.com/articles/the-best-and-worst-states-for-seniors
     
  13. CalPolyTechnique

    CalPolyTechnique Well-Known Member

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    The first sentence was illuminating.
     
  14. CalPolyTechnique

    CalPolyTechnique Well-Known Member

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    Vaguries, hearsay and platitudes; what a paragraph, lol.

    Speaking of entitlement, every dollar Texas pays the federal government in taxes it gets back $0.94; comparably, California gets just $0.78. So Texas is actually being subsidized by the Feds to a much greater extent than California.

    BTW, Californians have longer lifespans than Texans, which could be due to the fact that Texas has the highest percentage of people without health insurance in the country.

    https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/publications/2014/demo/p60-250.pdf
     
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  15. mrtxstar

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    Some of our greatest minds were home schooled. Your thinking it is illuminating is telling on you sir, not me.
     
  16. mrtxstar

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    Your omission of my full posting is evidence of your playing fast and loose with the facts. It's inconvenient to rebut my full posting so you cherry-pick that which you feel comfort to address. The one paragraph you did address you hardly rebut. "Vaguries" is not a word but I assume you meant "vagaries".

    Without having checked your numbers, I understand you are talking about a difference of 16 cents. Is that the degree of pettiness you have to stoop to in find worthy counterpoint? That is thin pickings... humorous.

    Longevity of life should never be confused with quality of life. With that in mind, California remains one of the worst states for seniors to live in and redirect you to the link I previously provided...
    https://www.senioradvice.com/articles/the-best-and-worst-states-for-seniors
     
  17. CalPolyTechnique

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    Loool, let me help you my homeschooled friend. When we're talking about federal funding and cents on the dollar, you're looking at economies of scale; as in hundreds of millions of dollars, smh.

    #homeschooling
     
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  18. Toruk_Makto

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    It isn't 16 cents that we're talking about. It's saying for every dollar paid in federal taxes....how much in federal services back does that state receive.

    Californians paid the federal government $405 billion dollars in 2015. Texas paid $279 billion. Of that $405 billion dollars California only gets back 78% in federal services. Of the $279 billion Texas paid....they got back 94% in federal services.

    Ironically red states, who talk a lot about how liberals want to make the country a nanny state, get back more in federal aid then they pay in taxes. The liberal states meanwhile taking care of them.

    Irony at it's finest.
     
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  19. mrtxstar

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    Your emphasis of my homeschooling seems to incorrectly be a point of derogation. Are you not familiar with the homeschooling curriculum? You don't seem to be familiar that it's far more comprehensive than that of public schooling. Homeschool students learn to take responsibility for their own education at an early age, they are self-motivated, a quality that makes them attractive to many college recruiters. Because of their frequent socialization with adults, they tend to be bright, curious, and articulate which makes them attractive to companies as well as colleges.

    You accuse me of vagaries but then engage in your own by switching the detail of contention from state funds to federal funds. Your inability to focus on a singular point is telling. Mudding the water as you do only further reveals your tactical habit to play loose with the facts. I fully understand matters of scale when addressing cents on the dollar but once again you cherry pick your talking points rather than fully disclosing information. Once again, it's your fast and loose approach with the facts that hurts your argument. I will, in the interest of full disclosure provide a more complete depiction of the facts.

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    California is 8th while Texas is 15th... both states are to be commended for being among the most efficient spenders of federal tax dollars.
     
  20. mrtxstar

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    Conservative communities take care of their own and therefore rely less on government provided services in contrast to liberal communities that insist on government providing everything from birth control to education. That which the government gives, the government can take away and therefore control your way of life. You must like being controlled. Social medicine, social engineering, social justice... no thank you.
     
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