NFL To Go With Full Time Officials

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by Alexander, Aug 9, 2017.

  1. Carharris2

    Carharris2 Well-Known Member

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    The NFL and NCAA refs are far far... worse than nba and MLB. It's not even close and anyone who tells you different is a liar and or and NFL/NCAA ref or family member.

    Distance yourself immediately.
     
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  2. Corso

    Corso Well-Known Member

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    Learn to get the damn calls right!
     
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  3. Carharris2

    Carharris2 Well-Known Member

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    I'm having a hard time believing anyone is attacking this move as bad.

    Is it possible the Russians are ***king with this thread?
     
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  4. CowboysWillRise

    CowboysWillRise Well-Known Member

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    Ive been crying for this for YEARS! Thanks for the share.
     
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  5. CowboysWillRise

    CowboysWillRise Well-Known Member

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    Exactly, study film, get on the SAME PAGE. Set standards, have workshops, spend time with all the teams bouncing around and making expectations clear. Just get better at thier jobs! The league has needed this for years.
     
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  6. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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    NFL along with the NFL Referees Association and they will have a say. It is not going to be NFL alone dictating
     
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  7. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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    Few things come without a negative side. Again I am not opposed to it but I don't think it fixes anything. I think a lot of the problems come from the Rules committee and the job they have done. You will not rid the league of bad calls or judgement calls.
     
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  8. HeavyBarrel

    HeavyBarrel Well-Known Member

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    Fine, as soon as the bell rings on the first day of NFL full time ref school I want the instructor to violently turn over a desk or two and decree rule numero uno-"DON'T CALL IT UNLESS IT'S FLAGRANT !!!"
     
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  9. aria

    aria Well-Known Member

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    Hmmmm...seems like a step in the right direction but we'll see. I absolutely can't stand the officiating. I hope they can be held more accountable for their horrendous calls now. Now we just need about 10 rule changes.
     
  10. CowboysWillRise

    CowboysWillRise Well-Known Member

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    I dont think anyone believes this fixes officiating over night. However, part time refs were always a joke. Having officials honing in on thier craft year round is an obvious step in the direction of improvement and a uniform interpretation of the rules. Of course we will always have human error but practice is no doubt the best way to improve. I see ZERO downside to this move. If we lose some seasoned officials so be it. I only want to see games called consistently.
     
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  11. CowboysWillRise

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    Amen, make it a straight up boot camp and weed out the weak. Lol
     
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  12. Silver Surfer

    Silver Surfer Well-Known Member

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    You're right, but remember this: There is no "NFL Referees Association" without the NFL.
     
  13. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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    I disagree I see many blow calls in those sports. I think the job the refs have in football is also much harder. As I said the problem is with the owners\coaches who run the rules committee they have created the problems with the constantly changing rules, the emphasizing some rules more than others. In the end the refs have taken the heat for what others have done.
     
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  14. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah and there is no NFL without players or owners either so what is your point? Refs are needed in the game just as players are needed. They will have a say in the contract they sign with the league. They will gain more power not less.
     
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  15. Doomsday101

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    Personally I would not want the job of an NFL ref. No matter the call someone is complaining. Things like pass interference is often a judgement call that tends to lean in the favor of the WR. All I ask of any Ref is call it the same way through out the game and for both teams. If you are going to call games close then call it close for both sides. Meantime NFL will no doubt add more to the refs plate this season with more rules.
     
  16. conner01

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    Not sure it really matters
    Same people making same calls
    Don't see how what they do the rest of the week is really gonna change much
    Not sure how you practice the job during the week
    Not really opposed to it, just think it's not gonna really fix any issues with calls
    They are still gonna make bad calls and the league is still gonna have vague rules to interpret
     
  17. Doomsday101

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    New rule: Unsportsmanlike conduct/leaping
    What it means: This change outlaws the emerging strategy to leap over the line of scrimmage to block extra point attempts or field goal attempts. There were three such blocks last season before teams adjusted and put the leaper in jeopardy of being flipped in the air and landing awkwardly. Players, coaches and the league all considered it a safety risk. As much fun as it is to watch the play unfold, I can't disagree with this decision. Teams will have to find a new way to defeat special-teams blocking schemes.

    New rule: Intentional fouls/unsportsmanlike conduct
    What it means: Teams will now be penalized 15 yards, and the game clock will be restored, if they commit multiple fouls on the same play in an effort to manipulate the game clock. This seemingly obscure change is directed at a strategy employed by the San Francisco 49ers and Baltimore Ravens last season, as well as by the Ravens in Super Bowl XLVII. The 49ers, for example, committed defensive holding on every New Orleans Saints receiver they were defending on one play during a two-minute drill, leaving quarterback Drew Brees without a viable target. The 49ers gladly traded a 5-yard penalty for valuable time drained off the clock. I'm sad but not surprised to see this one go. NFL teams rarely employ non-traditional strategies, and this certainly was a good one. But generally speaking, teams shouldn't be rewarded for breaking the rules.

    New rule: Stronger enforcement of penalties for "very egregious" hits
    What it means: The competition committee identified a handful of plays from the 2016 season that included hits so violent and so counter to existing rules that it wanted them "out of our game," according to chairman Rich McKay. Referees already were empowered to eject players who committed those acts, and they will be encouraged to use that authority. If they don't, the committee is recommending that the player be suspended for his next game even if it is a first offense. No rules will change, but it will be a point of emphasis. The league believes the issue will only arise a few times per season. I'm not so sure. Points of emphasis usually bring heavy-handed enforcement, especially early in the season. This is one to keep an eye on in September.

    http://cowboyszone.com/threads/nfl-to-go-with-full-time-officials.382273/page-2

    "very egregious" hits sorry but this is a judgement call rule that is being added to 2017 season. People are going to expect a clear cut call from the ref on something as vague as very egregious?
     
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  18. conner01

    conner01 Well-Known Member

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    the vague rules are a big part of the problem
     
  19. ConstantReboot

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    I think all of them. They were getting a 6 figure income working part-time.
     
  20. ConstantReboot

    ConstantReboot Well-Known Member

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    The vague rules is not a problem. The vague is a problem because it ONLY applies to the Cowboys.
     

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