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No more Rivers or Eli debates

Discussion in 'NFL Zone' started by jwitten82, Jan 23, 2012.

  1. jwitten82

    jwitten82 Active Member

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    The Giants got the better QB.
  2. Pentagruel

    Pentagruel Member

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    He got brutalized tonight by that niners D but he kept getting up without even blinking. Almost 60 pass attempts in the pouring rain and he took 22 hits, many of them vicious. If nothing else, he is one tough *******. I certainly think he's better then Rivers, and in the playoffs, I wouldn't take any other active QB over him right now.
  3. Ring Leader

    Ring Leader Active Member

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    Eli was fortunate to get the win and was hardly impressive in the title game. Had it not been for his stellar special teams, smothering defense, and 49er offensive ineptitude baby brother goes down and goes down hard. Eli has had a good year but his body of work is hardly that of legends. You wouldn't take any other active QB over him? Did you just start following football last month?
  4. Cowboys&LakersFan

    Cowboys&LakersFan Benched

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    :laugh2:
  5. tupperware

    tupperware A Plastic Container

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    Yeah that was such a bozo comment that I thought it had to of been a typo so I didn't respond.
  6. Bloodbunny

    Bloodbunny New Member

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    I would take Eli over anyone playing the position today with the *possible* exception of Brady. (Brady's 34, Eli 31, gotta think about age) I think we've all seen the film "Rudy," where coach Parseghian states "if you had a 10th of his heart, you'd be an All American"; well Eli has that type of heart and desire. I think tonight laid to rest any remaining doubt about Eli; even the Patriots know they are little more than sacrificial lambs at this point, much as they were in 1996 and 1985.
  7. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    Hey there, Giants fan. Congrats on the win today.
  8. BIGDen

    BIGDen Dr. Freakasaurus Zone Supporter

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    If it wasnt' for 2 muffed/fumbled punt returns, didn't he lead his team to like 10 points yeaterday? Kinda like his SB when he had led them to 1 TD all game then threw 2 game-losing picks on that big drive only to watch the Pats drop them. Eventually he throws an ill-advised duck into the middle of the field that is caught by a scrub with his helmet. Eli is a good QB, but I have NEVER seen more fortuitous things happen to a QB in huge moments. His WRs leap over everyone for a Hail Mary in the playoffs while we've watched Fasano and Crayton drop balls and pull up on routes. That vagiants team is lucky to be in the playoffs. If we don't take our game-winning kick off of the board against AZ or the refs don't blow that fumble call in the NY/AZ game, they aren't even in the postseason. The vagiants are good, but their luck has been a huge part of '07 and this annoying run.
  9. InmanRoshi

    InmanRoshi Zone Scribe

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    Giants were the better team, even with the fumbled punts. 49ers (literally) can't throw to a WR. No team should ever play in a Superbowl where the QB literally can't complete a pass to a WR.

    That said, Eli must hold the all time record for being bailed out of easy interceptions by two defenders running into each other. They used to say Donovan McNabb didn't throw many interceptions because his throws were so off target even defenders couldn't get to them. I think Eli's INT totals are held down by the fact that Eli often makes such remarkably bad decisions throwing into triple, even quadruple, coverage that it almost assures the likelihood of defenders running into each other for the easy pick.
  10. DBOY3141

    DBOY3141 Well-Known Member

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    At the end of the day....he wins. If he gets his second ring, it will be HOF talk.

    Eli gets bailed out, just like any other QB. He wins and that's all that matters.
  11. InmanRoshi

    InmanRoshi Zone Scribe

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    No not really. It's a nice, simplistic way to think though, and simplicity is comforting.
  12. casmith07

    casmith07 I'm the best poster in the game!

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    No question that Eli has had a career year, despite having some stinkers this year including last night, but lets not all of a sudden act like the dude has been like this his entire career.

    If Dashon Goldson or Carlos Rogers actually can catch, we're talking about Eli being Eli this morning instead.
  13. Gaede

    Gaede Well-Known Member

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    No kidding. I respect Eli for his heart, but my god, I have never seen a QB that throws so many stupid balls--and not only not have it intercepted, but usually come down with a reception as well
  14. stasheroo

    stasheroo Well-Known Member

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    I was never a big fan of bhis, but this year he's proved a lot to me. Offensively, his team is riding on him a great deal and he's coming through no matter what.

    If he gets his second Super Bowl ring, he'll markedly rise up the list of great quarterbacks.

    I give credit where credit is due, he's played great and deserves what he's earned.
  15. big dog cowboy

    big dog cowboy THE BIG DOG Staff Member

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    Wow.

    Just wow.
  16. Pentagruel

    Pentagruel Member

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    Key words, "In the playoffs". People need to learn to read here. I'm simply commenting on how much he elevates his game when it counts most. I'd rate Brady, Brees and maybe Rodgers higher then Eli overall.
  17. Joe Realist

    Joe Realist No Kool-Aid here!

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    There should be no Romo or Eli debates either, but there will be, because objectivity can be hard to find here.
  18. InmanRoshi

    InmanRoshi Zone Scribe

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    Nor can we have any more Trent Dilfer vs. Dan Marino debates.
  19. DFWJC

    DFWJC Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    Rivers this year looked a lot like Eli last year. We'll see if he rallies back.
    Eli certainly outplayed him this year...for once.

    I feel certain that Rivers would be doing the exact same things as Eli if he were a Giant.
  20. DFWJC

    DFWJC Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    Ok.
    There has to be some sort of ejector button for comments like this.

    Mods?

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