Nobody Talking About The Mine Explosion?

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  1. Hoofbite

    Hoofbite Well-Known Member

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    What's the deal?

    You guys are aware of the situation?

    Story is getting a little interesting. I guess one of the miners left his family a last goodbyes note a day or so before the blast.

    Same guy was sent home a week earlier for poor ventilation, I guess.
  2. SaltwaterServr

    SaltwaterServr Blank Paper Offends Me

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    600 violations in what, 18 months? I have zero knowledge of the mining industry in any capacity, but I have to believe the number of violations is excessive.
  3. big dog cowboy

    big dog cowboy THE BIG DOG Staff Member

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    It's a terrible story but honestly, is anyone ever surprised by this any more?
  4. Hoofbite

    Hoofbite Well-Known Member

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    I dunno. I don't know a lot about the topic so I don't know how regular accidents occur and go unnoticed.

    I think it's pretty shocking.

    That video I saw about the woman who's son wrote the last goodbyes letter said she lost her brother, son and maybe son-in-law in the blast.

    IIRC, she lost three relatives just like that.

    Just terrible.
  5. Sam I Am

    Sam I Am Unfriendly and Aloof!

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    Those mine owners are all about money and care nothing for their workers. From the ****ty working conditions to everyone drinking Mountain Dew down there. It's just a complete mess.

    The government should step in and clean that place up.
  6. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Winter is Coming Staff Member

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    That is the norm for many mines in WV.

    I don't know how many remember but it was just a few years ago that something similar happened in WV but it was the Sago Mines.

    The multiple fines are nothing to the coal companies. Although there are loads of fines, they are for so little money that the mines feel they are better off either paying them as if they are nothing, or just appealing them and keeping them hung up in courts.

    It is all about the money for the majority of these guys and for those that wish to argue about Unions...I am pretty sure that the current situation (with massey) is a company/mine that is mostly NON union.

    Add into the fact that massey has had many complaints about strip mining that has led to many people having their properties ruined due to run off and mud slides it is a never ending thing.

    The problem is in WV Coal is big business and it not only employees a large number of people but it also helps out in local communities because the employees are employeed (duh) and spend their money in the community. Without those coal mines and companies the unemployment rate would be much higher and you would also see a cause/effect situation with other businesses and communities as well.

    So it is a slippery slope in WV and has been for a long time. It is not as bad as way back in the day with the coal wars where the coal companies actually hired someone to use a WWII bi-plane to drop bombs on coal miners and such. It is not as bad as in the old days where the coal company owned your home, owned all the stores and paid you in company money you could only use at company stores.

    However it is still a problem. But as I said in WV it is not as simple as doing one thing or the other due to the local economics involved even if you did cut out any of the other problems.

    It is a sad situation all around but I do think that if the fines were for more money, if they actually had some teeth in them, then maybe some of these mines would wind up being better because they would take heed and try to avoid these fines instead of just thinking they are not enough to really worry about.

    The saddest thing is that in a few weeks or months this whole thing will blow over and people will completely forget about it just like it happened a few years ago in the Sago mine situation and again the coal companies will just go on doing what they do without much repercussions. In the end they will still keep on keeping on until the next mine disaster happens and the cycle starts again.
  7. Maikeru-sama

    Maikeru-sama Mick Green 58

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    A few days ago, I saw a report that claimed the owners of the mine had been cited for several violations but failed to comply with authorities to fix the problems.

    Who knows.

    Generally speaking, a lot of miners are at an economic disadvantage and often times have no voice in Government, so they get taken advantage of but that is the case for most groups that fit that profile.

    I remember reading an ESPN the Magazine piece about Julies Jones and his parents worked in Mines all their life. It was an extremely interesting piece.
  8. ethiostar

    ethiostar Well-Known Member

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    Not to mention they have so much clout in the politics of WV and it doesn't seem like nothing really gets done without their blessing.

    I read sometime ago that about 75% of the land and about 80% of the natural resources under ground in WV are owned by absentee land owners, owners who do not live in WV. Which essentially means that the vast majority of the revenue that is generated from these holdings leaves the State without much reinvestment in the local communities. In a way it is much similar in the way colonization operated in much of the world.
  9. kristie

    kristie Well-Known Member

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    i live in montana, a state that had the worst coal mine disaster in state history. click the link to read about it:

    what happened in west virginia is just horrible. my thoughts & prayers are with the miners' families. :(

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